The 2nd Amendment

You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she was talking about all 'assault rifles', what she considers 'military assault rifles'. Has she said something else in the last 20 years regarding totally disarming America?

I think this might turn out to be false.

I think this might turn out to be false.

No comment.

 

Back in 1995. She was referring to "assault weapons" here. Still, once that door is opened.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffI-tWh37UY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffI-tWh37UY

Now, granted, her position may have "evolved" since then.

 

But this is it wouldn’t if be better to try and insure such a failure didn’t occur rather than live with the fear that it might?

 

Again, why do you insist on twisting my words? Could you please point out where I said I fear the possibility? Again, you are being very dishonest.

 

Sig

So you are totally and utterly unafraid that politics might fail, that you have guns specifically because you fear it might? Again that doesn't seem to add up.

 

I accept that politics may fail. However, I am not afraid of that potential failing. In other words, I do not fear politics failing but I accept that that failing is possible. Again, stop twisting my words.

 

I watched exactly the same clip. I thought the response would be: 'Still, once that door is opened'.
This is from Feb 2013:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuTZ2b6fj0Y"]Dianne Feinstein's Senate Hearing On Gun Control - YouTube

A distance of 18 years. I think she would have changed her position by now if she ever were to.

I don't think she ever said: her ultimate agenda is to disarm Americans.

Personally, I think she seems to be using recent events to pursue her original goal.

 

Sig

And yes that would be very bad, something to fear.

Why not - if you think it may fail then I think you would be afraid, afraid enough maybe to the point were you think you need having deadly ‘just in case’ weapons around.

I mean why have them if you had no fear?

 

Fear? No. Fear doesn't solve anything. Prepare for it, but don't fear it.

You think I should be afraid. But I am not. I have them because I am prepared, not because I am afraid.

 

I agree. Whether then, or now, her goal is disgusting.

 

Come on, man, I deserve a little better than that.

 

Well, I don't think it's absolutely disgusting. But her focus seems to be regarding certain assault[rifles] and she exempts a whole raft of other rifles. She seems to want 'controls' on handguns. It all seems rather pointless from over here. I wouldn't use the same language, and we might differ slightly, but I tend to agree with you.

 

I almost just posted the same video. That's what I was talking about, although I've always interpreted it to be more far reaching than evil black rifles.

Either way she was and still is living in Balbus' dreamland. Turn em all in.. Oh ok that would go over real well in the US.

 

Did you notice how it was edited and didn't actually mention she wanted to ban all guns? It only took me less than five minutes to find out that clip was less than honest. I guess you hear what you want to hear, right? : /

Is this more far reaching than evil black rifles?

In January 2013, Feinstein along with Representative Carolyn McCarthy from New York proposed a bill that would "ban the sale, transfer, manufacturing of importation of 150 specific firearms including semiautomatic rifles or pistols that can be used with a detachable or fixed ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds and have specific military-style features, including pistol grips, grenade launchers or rocket launchers." The bill exempts 900 models of guns used for sport and hunting (the exemption is for 2,258 specific shotguns and rifles).

 

Sig

You are prepared with a whole bedroom full of weapons for something you are totally unafraid of and think will not happen – again that just doesn’t seem to add up.

Why be prepared for something that you don’t in any way fear, as I’ve said it’s a bit like being prepared for a volcano where one isn’t going to happen.

If someone truly didn’t fear your reasons for wanting ‘just in case’ lethal weapons why would they want them, logically only if they actually feared harm form such things would they feel it necessary to have weapons around to defend themselves from it.

I mean the reason for having weapons is to either cause harm (or threaten harm) or because harm is feared. You can say I’m only prepared to cause harm (which is threatening) or I’m prepared to defend myself from harm, but again why be prepared if you didn’t fear that harm?

Are you thinking that the guns somehow make you powerful and immune from harm and that is why you claim to not to fear such harm?

But what are you preparing for? I mean you claim that you have the guns ‘just in case’ of a huge rise in crime, revolution and the anarchy of a total political collapse and I believe if your government became a tyranny. In such eventualities what do you think your guns are going to accomplish and how?

To me all of these things would have underlying social, economic and political causes and are not likely to just suddenly happen. So it seems to me that it is in those areas that preparation should be concentrated.

 

My hope would be that Americans would bring about a society in which people didn’t feel they needed guns for defence.

 

It's a whole bedroom full of weapons now?

 

To quote Sig - All my guns can be considered "by my bedside" because they are all in my bed room, all in safes (one in a closet, one not), and all within 2-3 paces of my bed.

I believe he has a shotgun – a Mauser 98k – a AR – a P226 – and is looking to get a bolt action rifle and a Glock

Pretty full room to me.

 

I know what he said.

As far as I am aware, he has two safes, and approx 3-4 guns.
I do think you were suggesting all four walls are covered with guns.



I understand Siq seems to convey a significant pride in his guns.
But, imho, there isn't any reason to turn him into the type of person who has guns popping out of every nook and cranny - it smacks of desperation on your part, imho.

I do appreciate you want to infer he has lots and lots and lots of guns.
Heck, a whole bedroom full of 'em.
But you can't get that from that quote, imho.

I could be wrong.