The Beautful Days Weather Forecast.... !

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Beautiful_Day, Aug 15, 2005.

  1. Ellie-Rose

    Ellie-Rose Le Muppet

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    yeah well I agree there.. No need to treat them like criminals
     
  2. jonny2mad

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    I shouted at one group of idiot teenagers that spoiled the performance of a storyteller completely even after being told to be quite or play somewhere else god knows how many times .

    Then they started jumping over a fire while wearing big bell bottom trousers so I shouted at them I didnt swear, but if I wasnt working at the festival I would have shouted and sworn at them worse.

    I suppose their parents may think I was on a powertrip for shouting at their idiot children... but if they had gone up in flames I would have been at fault for not stopping them

    I agree you should treat fence jumpers differently than someone acting violent
     
  3. DoktorAtomik

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    That's really weird. I thought the toilets were some of the cleanest I've ever seen at a festival. It seemed like they got cleaned every morning.

    Not really. At the moment, it's more like all the good bits taken out of Glastonbury festie and dumped in a field in Devon. Is it commercial? Well you have to buy a ticket, and there's stuff there for sale.... so I don't see how it could be anything else. The question then becomes is it too commercial. Personally, I don't see it. Compare BD to any of the bigger festies and it's an entirely different beast. Whether that changes depends entirely on whether the focus remains on creating a decent festie, or switches to making large amounts of money. At the moment, I'd say they're getting it about right.

    Precisely. If you want a decent, large-scale festie, you have to satisfy the authorities. Sad indeed, but that's the name of the game these days. Then again, if you'd ever been to a free festival on Bodmin moor and spent half the night trying to find somewhere to shit, you'd see the benefits brought by organisation, entrance fees and portaloos ;)

    Ummm.... I beg to differ. All societies have had rules and guidelines since the dawn of time, but individuality seems to have survived. Rules and guidelines are fine so long as they're not too restrictive, and so long as they're based on a mutual consensus. Again, didn't really notice much lack of individuality at BD. At least no more than in society as a whole.
     
  4. DoktorAtomik

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    Yeah, it was truly horrible. Thousands of people worshipping capitalism and sacrificing little babies on the altar of commercialism. The worst thing was, they seemed to be cunningly disguised as a bunch of people having a good time in the sun. God help us all.

    Last time I checked, Glastonbury festival (for example) spent about 25% of the ticket cost on performance fees. Given that the line up is a lot smaller and the bands less well known, I expect the proportion is even lower at Beautiful Days.

    And speaking of bands' fees, why the fuck shouldn't they make some money? What do you expect them to live on? Fresh fucking air and good vibes? Coz the last time I checked, you couldn't buy a guitar with positive vibrations. The vast majority of the acts at BD are hardly huge corporate cash-making machines for fuck's sake. Half of them are barely off a giro. Honestly, Starfly.... your posts sound more like right-on slogans than informed and educated opinions these days.
     
  5. Ellie-Rose

    Ellie-Rose Le Muppet

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    I thought the toilets were spot on as well!!
     
  6. PIXIEFIED

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    i thought the bogs were alright too, except i think they blanked cleaning em on the last night and they was pretty boggin by then.
    green gatherin toilets were brill, they had bog men that came every day and cleaned em, and there was mini bogman, who was about 8 and had same uniform as his dad, same pot belly same face and same mobile phone in a holster. he was a festival attraction in my eyes.
    iccle bog man. respect!
     
  7. PIXIEFIED

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    lol
     
  8. DoktorAtomik

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    Was that under dispute? The point is that this is likely to represent 25% or less of the cost of a ticket. You argued that band fees account for "why you get charged an extortianate amount of money to go to these events." Fees represent a relatively small proportion of the cost of your ticket, thus demonstrating the error inherent in your original statement.

    Right. So you expect the rest of the world to conform to your personal sense of morality then, do ya? Didn't you have a job for a while? Did you do that for free, or were you happy to cash the cheque? Show me how you expect a band to pay for music equipment, travel expenses, food, accomodation etc on love and good vibes and your argument may have a little more credibility.

    Wow. The Levellers and Dreadzone are huge, corporate cash-milking machines? That would certainly explain why they've played at all those free festivals and benefit gigs over the years, wouldn't it?
     
  9. DoktorAtomik

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    With the greatest fondness and respect, I really need to point out that you're talking out of your arse. Tickets cost £55 in 2003 and £65 in 2004. That's an increase of £20 over two years. Considering that the festival has doubled in size during that time, it seems like a reasonable increase to me.

    What, like the Big Green Gathering, where it's nearly £100 per ticket with no big name bands whatsoever?

    Care to provide an example of a festival with a headcount of 10,000 and a ticket price of significantly less than £75?
     
  10. PIXIEFIED

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    i still thought no concessions if your on the dole was a bit wanky. but i suppose most levellers fans are middle class people who decide to go and be hippies for the weekend though.
    id pay 80 quid to go again, will it be 100 quid next yr though??
    i dunno why they didnt make it it so the festival is just payin for its self rather then making loads of profit and fleecing me to get in though. they already got enough money so why do they need to make more. just seems a bit hypocritical to me from a band that grew from free festival scene
    i might be missing summin though, but as far as i can see its just simple greed.
     
  11. DoktorAtomik

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    I agree. But Gill reckons concessions are on the cards for next year, so I guess we'll see if The Levellers walk the walk.
     
  12. dapablo

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    Likewise, next year will be the test, if no good Party in the Paddock :)
     
  13. Claire

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    Couldn't-believe-they-were-charging-an-extra-£40-ontop-of-the-ticket-price-to-camp-your-truck:mad:

    But-I'll-let-it-lie-now...honest:p
     
  14. PinkMoon

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    if you dont want to pay for a ticket ... work there :) then you get free food as well...
     
  15. PIXIEFIED

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    fuck that for a laugh.
    if i wanted to work i could pay for a ticket.
     
  16. Claire

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    PIXIE,-you-"earn"-more-from-the-system-than-most-of-the-people-that-work-for-companies-do.-I-don't-begrudge-you-it...but-thought-it-was-worth-pointing-out.

    I-thought-the-festival-was-well-value-for-money...apart-from-the-campervan-charge-grrrrr....not-that-I-have-a-campervan-myself...but-that's-another-story:p
     
  17. PIXIEFIED

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    was just been lighthearted, i thought it was alright for 80quid.
    had a top top top time
     

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