The Bible, the Papacy and the Church

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so this Quran verse has something to do with The bible, the papacy and the church?

how so I can find the book of An-Nahl in the bible?

 

indeed it does, if you only read it. besides can't see any verses that've been quoted from the Bible in answering the op

 

If you are Jack Chick it does...

 

Buurrn!!!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2hoBYkK9GM"]YouTube- Tradition will KILL YOU!

Colossians 2:8 (King James Version)

8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

 

Post more of this guy, he is funny.

He confuses Tradition and tradition. Lower cast "t" traditions are not necessary: Ashes on Wednesday, a "pagan" water dipping...et cetera.

Interesting fact, what did Jews essentially wallow in to show penance: ashes! (in the Bible). They are not to "protect us". The Rosary was not from Hare Krishnas. ISKCON has only been around for a short time.

I do not doubt that the water dipping was used by pagans as a yearly rite, but the guy is still a kook [Easter is pagan...what about Easter is pagan. Well 1) English a German names and 2) Secular symbols for it].

The "pick and mix" part doesn't mean they are "cafeteria Christians" as the video claims. What it means is that local customs were integrated into the local tradition of Christianity which is separate form the Tradition of the Church. Tradition is mandatory.

Yes, some Christians are susceptible to superstition (the "magic" qualities of the clothes after), but doesn't that also sort of apply to baptism?

Nothing in protestant baptismal water is special (and a Catholic can be baptized in any old water too). This would seem that Protestants believe that any old tap water has the same qualities of God, to wash away sins...but water blessed is set apart by God. It is more than water. It cleanses our sins. It is a visible sign of God's grace. It is a Sacrament.

 

post more of this guy, I enjoy them....

 

ok

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/03/more-evidence-emerges-tha_n_524192.html

More Evidence Emerges That Pope Benedict Helped Shield Pedophiles Before He Became Pope

 

So the pope's a bad example to people, but pres. Obama is a good example instead for the understanding of personal Conscience?

 

I think obamas no different...... but the same as the pope......both at high powerful place but both with major flaws...

 

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2010/04/what-to-keep-in-mind-about-the-arizona-case-which-is-revving-up/

It is also important to note that most of the clerics caught and who unfortunately are not caught in sexual abuse are not pedophiles. they are men involved in heinous sexual acts with young men between the ages of 15 and 17. Is that pedophilia?

 

These are ages under legal consent, so yes.

 

pwnage.

 

that doesnt excuse the sexual act sodomy that they did.....as Priest.

 

The question is always, where do you draw the line and the answer is always arbitrary. This is the reason judgment spoils the real view. The real answer to is it pedophilia at a certain age is opinion as well as practice vary.

 

No, pedophilia is sexual acts with prepubescent children. 15 to 17 is post-pubescent. It is not true pedophilia in most cases.

This doesn't make it better, but because pedophilia is such a loaded word, I argue that it is incorrect to label the scandal as a "pedophile scandal".

And no, it does not excuse the acts that they did (in reference to my link), but your link implies that the current Pope voluntarily delayed the appeal of the priest, when in truth all appeals were delayed because the rules were changed in order to make it easier to bring these creeps to justice. That is the work of Pope Benedict, justice.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1lkHlTogbI&playnext_from=TL&videos=itgm6-63TO4"]YouTube- Endtime Ministries - Evil Pope Foretold?