The biggest argument starter.

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by VolcomStoner420, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. VolcomStoner420

    VolcomStoner420 Member

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    That is why its the biggest argument starter.
     
  2. VolcomStoner420

    VolcomStoner420 Member

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    Oven Mitt, lol
     
  3. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    The dude was freaky to say the least.



    But, I wouldnt argue with someone on this subject, I think its a person choice. But, I can understand why it could become a heated arguement.
     
  4. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    ahhahaha your great, coat hanger abortions FTW!

    my stance is let it happen, like others said, if your born into a shit enviroment and only bread for failure, your probably better off not being born
     
  5. VolcomStoner420

    VolcomStoner420 Member

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    Dj you said bread, haha. You meant bred though I assume. Did you know that when I assume I make an ASS out of U and ME.
     
  6. TresBizzare420

    TresBizzare420 Member

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    I agree with you that every child deserves a chance at life. The only problem I have with this situation is that perhaps in the extreme cases it would be worse not to abort a potential child. If a developing embryo is so unwanted that a woman would abort it; she is not going to nurture that fetus when it is born. A woman who may not be able to raise a child may not be able to stay healthy enough to keep her body a good home for a developing fetus. If that baby dies after birth, it will suffer more than if it dies as an embryo. It seems better to abort a fetus than to neglect and abuse a child.

    Adoption may be the best option for a pregnant woman unable to take care of a child. If a woman does not take care of herself during pregnancy, any baby coming out of her will already not have an equal chance of making it.

    I don’t think abortion should be a form of birth control, but rather a last resort. If a woman is raped or the birth of the baby will cost the life of the woman than to deny the women a legal abortion would carry worse effects.

    Regardless of my personal views, abortion will happen regardless of whether it is legal or not. If one is going to have an abortion, better a safe abortion compared to a rusty coat hanger in a back ally.

    It seems interesting the extremists who bomb abortion clinics to stop abortions, as well as people who don’t believe in abortions however support war which takes the lives of civilians rather then combatants.

    Education is the only thing which can prevent a rise in abortion. Has anyone ever seen the movie “Saved?” What would Mary have done had she been without support?

    One would think that the majority of women would be able to realize that they are pregnant before the embryo developed into a fetus.
     
  7. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Of course, there are always special circumstances. Whether or not a woman will even be able to carry the baby to term being the main one for me, but other than that, fuck abortion. Even after rape, I say you should carry the baby and give it up for adoption. It's not the baby's fault that some fucker chose to rape it's mommy. It's not the mom's fault either, but killing the fetus is just wrong, imo.

    In the end, it's the woman's choice, but I'll never agree with abortion.
     
  8. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    the majority of abortions happen before the embryo becomes a fetus.
     
  9. skullkidnate

    skullkidnate ナサニエル

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    Yea if only we could ask the fetus.
     
  10. skullkidnate

    skullkidnate ナサニエル

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    Yea if only we could ask the embryo.
     
  11. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    It's still a child that is having it's life taken away before it even gets a chance, which is wrong, imo.
     
  12. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    when do you believe the single cells become a child? when the egg is fertilized? when the blastula is implanted in the uteral wall? when the blastula becomes an embryo?
     
  13. seizedbyanger

    seizedbyanger Banned

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    imo, it doesn't have a life till its born cuz like

    idk it hasn't lived yet i guess?
     
  14. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I'm not even taking ANY of that into consideration. It is a forming child since conception, and it saddens me that it is destroyed before it even gets the chance to grow into an actual human being. I believe that any child, after birth, will convince it's mother that abortion would have been a mistake, even if they give the child up for adoption. How can anyone look a baby in it's eyes and wish that it didn't exist?
     
  15. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    But it deserves the chance to live.
     
  16. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    so the day before the fetus is born it is not alive, but as soon as its out of the womb it is alive? how do you figure that?
     
  17. Krsna Bhakti

    Krsna Bhakti d-_-b JAMMING

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    What if the person that raped the mom was her brother? Or her dad? Then would you reconsider?
    I dont believe abortion is proper either, but in the situation that involves rape or incest, then I see no problem in it.
    I personally would never condone it, but then again I will never be raped. Or, if I am, I cant get pregnant :tongue: lol
    And if a girl I was with was raped, I would leave her the choice. Its not my body, and I dont believe that we as human beings give or create life. Babies are born through their mothers, and by the passing of our chemicals, but they are only born through us, not by us, if you follow what Im saying. The spark of life comes from elsewhere.
     
  18. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    id ont care, its theyre choice. i wish i was aborted, then i wouldnt have to deal with this bullshit hich is being a 15 year old with a stupid mother and no one who understands you. i hate this place.
     
  19. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    technically it is not a forming child till the blasula has implanted itself into the uterus wall.

    a lot of people have fertility problems where they can not get the blastula to implant in the uterus. they can still have sex, accept sperm, have an egg fertilized, and have a blastula develop, but they will never get pregnant.
     
  20. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Incest, maybe. But even if a woman gets pregnant after being raped, she can still appreciate that it's not the baby's fault and can still give it the chance it deserves. My sister got pregnant by being raped, and she still had the baby and gave it up for adoption, just because she felt it deserved a chance at life. Before that, she had a miscarriage, so maybe that swayed her decision in some way, but I respected her decision to carry the baby to term.
     
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