The Donald Trump Score Card

6-eyed shaman · Jun 9, 2017

I mention Hillary's name once. And I'm the one accused of obsessing in a thread that obsesses over Trump's every move.

MeAgain · Jun 10, 2017

The Imaginary Being said:

i know little of american politics. but i always wondered

concerning hillary clinton... what point does it serve if it is uncovered that the russians helped trump personally hack her emails?
i mean, do two wrongs make a right?
she was still breaking the law however you look at it...

i am hardly one to talk considering the 'politicians' we have presently in the u.k... but they are both shit heads
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Trump didn't hack her emails, the Russians did.
It's not known if the Russians helped Trump personally, or vice versa, what is known is that the Russians did hack into the DNC and other organizations, they released anti Clinton propaganda, and they employed trolls to dispense false data.
It's also a fact that Trump encouraged them to do so at at least one rally, and used the Russian disinformation to his advantage.
There are also several strange secret meetings between members of his team and the Russians that were not reported and were lied about.

Hillary Clinton broke no laws.
That's why it's strange that people keep going back to her.

MeAgain · Jun 10, 2017

6-eyed shaman said:

I mention Hillary's name once. And I'm the one accused of obsessing in a thread that obsesses over Trump's every move.
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You claimed that the Russian intervention in the U.S. elections is nothing more than a conspiracy theory.
You claim that everything leads back to Hillary Clinton, like it's her fault.
You claim that we have forgotten what those leaked emails revealed, we haven't, they revealed that Hillary did nothing illegal.
You claim "They'd" rather blame someone else for "their" problems and you claim it's the Democratic party that's corrupt, totally ignoring the fact that the Russians were involved and that Trump and his team, at the least, took advantage of that fact.
You imply that the Republicans are totally blameless.
You suggest that there was something illegal in regards to the Clinton, Sanders primary race, there wasn't.

And finally you trot out those old worn out ridiculous claims of paid agitators and a child sex ring run out of a pizza parlor.

And then you claim we're obsessing!!!!

MeAgain · Jun 10, 2017

Meanwhile the Republicans are quietly trying to repeal ObamaCare and get TrumpCare through the Senate.

Conservative senators and allied outside groups are on the verge of rebellion against the Senate’s Obamacare repeal effort, potentially derailing delicate negotiations to overhaul the nation’s health care system.
As Obamacare repeal talks enter crunch time with a vote as soon as this month, the Senate bill continues to tilt toward more moderate members of the GOP on keeping some of Obamacare’s regulatory structure and providing a more generous wind-down of the law’s Medicaid expansion. The movement has made Republicans increasingly pessimistic that two critical conservative senators, Mike Lee of Utah and Rand Paul of Kentucky, will be able to vote for the GOP’s ultimate agreement on health care, according to senators and aides.
[SIZE=12pt]~ Politico[/SIZE]
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MeAgain · Jun 10, 2017

Republican Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley chastises Trump for "flooding the swamp"

In a letter to President Donald Trump, the veteran Iowa Republican senator urged Trump to reverse a policy instituted by the White House and the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel to answer oversight requests only from committee chairmen, all of whom are Republicans because of GOP control of Congress. Though Grassley said that the Obama administration did sometimes ignore him, he said the formalization of a policy of ignoring the minority party "doesn’t drain the swamp, Mr. President. It floods the swamp."
"I respectfully request that the White House rescind this OLC opinion and any policy of ignoring oversight request from non-Chairmen. It harms not just the members who happen to be in the minority party at the moment, but also, members in the majority party who are not currently chairmen. It obstructs what ought to be the natural flow of information between agencies and the committees, which frustrates the constitutional function of legislating," Grassley wrote. ~ Politico
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Trump is using the Justice Department to fight lawsuits over his business deals with foreign governments.

Shortly before taking office, Trump promised to give up any profits his businesses make from dealings with foreign governments. However, no details of that plan emerged until last month when a Trump Organization flyer was made public indicating that while some money from foreign government business would be donated to the U.S. Treasury, there would be no effort to determine whether individual patrons at Trump hotels or other businesses were affiliated with foreign governments.
The group pressing the lawsuit complained Friday about another aspect of the government's brief: an assertion that the organizations and individuals pursuing the case have no standing to enforce the Constitution's limits on what the founders referred to as "foreign emoluments."
[SIZE=9pt]"It's clear from the government's response that they don't believe anyone can go to court to stop the president from systematically violating the constitution. We heartily disagree and look forward to our day in court," CREW spokesman Jordan Libowitz said in a statement. ~ [/SIZE]Politico
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BlackBillBlake · Jun 11, 2017

Trump is putting his state visit to the UK on hold. In a phone call he told PM May that he doesn't want to come until the British public support him. Could be he's going to be in for a long wait on that...........

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/11/donald-trump-state-visit-to-britain-put-on-hold

MeAgain · Jun 11, 2017

The House GOP passes the Financial Choice Act while we watch the Russian circus.
This "Choice" act allows banks to choose to disregard the Volker act which prevented them from taking risky chances,
Scales back the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau which regulates large banks and payday lenders,
And it eliminates all regulations on payday and car title lenders.

"It is bad for consumers, it is bad for investors, and it's bad for the stability of the American economy — which is bad for all of us," said Lisa Donner, executive director of Americans for Financial Reform. "People believe there should be more — not less — regulation of Wall Street. They're worried about regulators being too weak and being too afraid to take on the big guys. Not about their being tough."
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Moonglow181 · Jun 11, 2017

I am starting to feel enraged all over again by this Presidency, Republican majority everywhere and people who still support the idiot. I would never vote Republican anything, ever.

Unless, you are a millionaire yourself only looking for more of the pie and your own self interests, how does anyone still support this narcissitic clown?

Listening to a political analyst last week...they said that unless Trump's approval rating drops below 30 %....which it won't, to my thinking....Republicans will not do a darn thing to impeach this President..They have carte blanche now to do whatever they want to with no checks and balances or anyone to hinder them. 75% of the pie was not enough for them. they want it all.....

I still cannot fathom how more people are not outraged by the pull out of the Paris agreement , either.

i am baffled by people's thinking....and I am so tired of being angry over this.

MeAgain · Jun 11, 2017

Why It’s Impossible for Republicans to Investigate the Trump-Russia Scandal

WOLF ANGEL · Jun 11, 2017

The President may not care but -
Hawaii to Trump: Sorry we're sticking with the Paris Climate Agreement:
http://mashable.com/2017/06/07/hawaii-first-state-climate-change-paris-agreement/#DZRQ1pW_SSq4

California signs Climate Change deal with China after Trump's Paris exit:
http://www.elp.com/articles/2017/06/california-sign-climate-change-deal-with-china-after-trump-s-paris-exit.html
A President's supremacy is not all it seems

Moonglow181 · Jun 11, 2017

That is some good news, Wolf.....

Flagme15 · Jun 11, 2017

Moonglow181 said:

I am starting to feel enraged all over again by this Presidency, Republican majority everywhere and people who still support the idiot. I would never vote Republican anything, ever.
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The first time I voted was in 1972, and I voted for Nixon. That was the only time I've voted for a republican presidential candidate.

6-eyed shaman · Jun 11, 2017

MeAgain said:

You claimed that the Russian intervention in the U.S. elections is nothing more than a conspiracy theory.
You claim that everything leads back to Hillary Clinton, like it's her fault.
You claim that we have forgotten what those leaked emails revealed, we haven't, they revealed that Hillary did nothing illegal.
You claim "They'd" rather blame someone else for "their" problems and you claim it's the Democratic party that's corrupt, totally ignoring the fact that the Russians were involved and that Trump and his team, at the least, took advantage of that fact.
You imply that the Republicans are totally blameless.
You suggest that there was something illegal in regards to the Clinton, Sanders primary race, there wasn't.

And finally you trot out those old worn out ridiculous claims of paid agitators and a child sex ring run out of a pizza parlor.

And then you claim we're obsessing!!!!
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A couple of my posts versus more than 200 pages

unfocusedanakin · Jun 11, 2017

I try to be open to different opinions. But honestly I have not heard one rational thing from his supporters. This is not a case of I just don't agree they speak in circles and can only repeat 2 or 3 things. When you reply to them they have the same standard stock answer that makes no sense. There is no debate because debate requires two brains. I am sure they would say the same thing about people like me.

I have heard the conspiracy that he had paid operatives. The goal being to first of all make sure he is always being talked about because that is what his ego demands. Second just to create chaos and upset people because this psychological warfare is good for the party. I wonder if some people here are actuly that or if they are just ignorant and very devoted to it.

It is true that almost any "liberal" site such as this you can find a few hardcore Trumpers who spend very little if any time discussing anything but him. From the few I visit I can say that most of these people were no where to be found a year or two ago.

NoxiousGas · Jun 11, 2017

6-eyed shaman said:

A couple of my posts versus more than 200 pages
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uhmmm, I never saw it as obsession, just a daily chronicling here of what the prez does, it isn't MeAgain's fault or anyone else if Trumps actions give rise to a twisted surreal horror comedy show.
and I am utterly dumbfounded that anybody actually supports this fool, it is the height of scary stupid.

Moonglow181 · Jun 11, 2017

Scary stupid and scary SICK is my word for much of it these days...

Row row row your boat

selling democracy down the stream

Creepily creepily creepily
More of a nightmare than a dream.

Meliai · Jun 12, 2017

unfocusedanakin said:

I try to be open to different opinions. But honestly I have not heard one rational thing from his supporters. This is not a case of I just don't agree they speak in circles and can only repeat 2 or 3 things. When you reply to them they have the same standard stock answer that makes no sense. There is no debate because debate requires two brains. I am sure they would say the same thing about people like me.

I have heard the conspiracy that he had paid operatives. The goal being to first of all make sure he is always being talked about because that is what his ego demands. Second just to create chaos and upset people because this psychological warfare is good for the party. I wonder if some people here are actuly that or if they are just ignorant and very devoted to it.

It is true that almost any "liberal" site such as this you can find a few hardcore Trumpers who spend very little if any time discussing anything but him. From the few I visit I can say that most of these people were no where to be found a year or two ago.
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Arguments for Trump:

1) But Obama!
2)But Hillary
3) Trump is a businessman!

egger · Jun 12, 2017

Trump travel ban injunction upheld.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/federal-court-upholds-trump-travel-ban-injunction-article-1.3241338

One has to question how far Trump wants to proceed with his attempted ban. His initial rationale for it was to buy 90 days for him to figure out how to improve immigration policy. The 90 days have passed.

His business history has shown that he is willing to fight the same case in court for 15 years (Polish immigrant workers lawsuit) so as to not appear to be a loser. For the benefit of the country, pragmatism needs to take precedence over personal ego.

Trump lifted early his 90-day federal hiring freeze Presidential memorandum. It was causing more problems than solving, similar to his travel ban.

At some point the rock star theatrics need to end and serious policy-making talks need to commence between the White House and Congress.

Okiefreak · Jun 13, 2017

Meliai said:

Arguments for Trump:

1) But Obama!
2)But Hillary
3) Trump is a businessman!
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4. Don't forget the latest."Trump is a rookie. We have to cut him some slack while he learns on the job"--. Paul Ryan

Okiefreak · Jun 13, 2017

MeAgain said:

You claimed that the Russian intervention in the U.S. elections is nothing more than a conspiracy theory.
You claim that everything leads back to Hillary Clinton, like it's her fault.
You claim that we have forgotten what those leaked emails revealed, we haven't, they revealed that Hillary did nothing illegal.
You claim "They'd" rather blame someone else for "their" problems and you claim it's the Democratic party that's corrupt, totally ignoring the fact that the Russians were involved and that Trump and his team, at the least, took advantage of that fact.
You imply that the Republicans are totally blameless.
You suggest that there was something illegal in regards to the Clinton, Sanders primary race, there wasn't.

And finally you trot out those old worn out ridiculous claims of paid agitators and a child sex ring run out of a pizza parlor.

And then you claim we're obsessing!!!!
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Don't forget Black lives matter. And Antifa. And Black lives matter. And Antifa. and George Soros. And Antifa. And Black Lives Matter. And Antifa. and Sharia. And Black Lives Matter, and George Soros, and Antifa, etc., etc. ,etc.!

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