The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. Flagme15

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    a spectacle… an embarrassment… a disgrace… because of the behavior of one man, Donald Trump. The interrupting and the bullying, the absence of both decency and dignity—those were Donald Trump’s distinctive contributions to the evening, and they gave the affair the rare and sickening character of a national humiliation-William Kristol(conservative commentator)
     
  2. Tyrsonswood

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    Sounds like Trump's base...
     
  3. Tishomingo

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    That's it. The whole gist of Trump and his gang is that all the norms of civility that make a decent society should be thrown out the window unless they get their way. Somebody on TV compared the event to Yo-yo Ma, the cellist, giving a concert while some jerk is blasting a bull horn in the background. The comparison of Biden to Yo-yo Ma is way overdrawn, but it captures the absurdity of what we saw last night, with one party to a "debate " literally trying to interrupt and drown out the other so that the audience couldn't hear the content. Trump's ugly id was on display. Hard to imagine the kinds of people who would respect him, although I understand the Proud Boys are celebrating his call for them to stand by, and are even making T-shirts with the slogan.
     
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  4. egger

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    America is cracking up, the first presidential debate proved it
    The chaos that ricocheted across television screens last night was testament to the sad spectacle that is America today.
    Andrew Mitrovica
    30 Sep 2020

    America is cracking up, the first presidential debate proved it

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    "Trump proved, once more, that he is a pitiful excuse for a president. Calmness, thoughtfulness, maturity and rationality are anathema to Trump. Every disgraceful measure of this disgraceful president was on parade for a hellish evening.

    Trump shouted obscenities. He lied. He thundered. He deflected. He smirked. He, incredibly, played, again and again, the victim of a fictitious media cabal and an equally fictitious attempted coup d’état.

    This at a time when more than 200,000 Americans have died avoidable deaths, falling victim to a COVID-19 outbreak compounded by a near-criminally incompetent president who once insisted that the lethal virus would magically disappear by Easter."
     
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  5. Flagme15

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    I'm not sure that trump's base knows what decency and dignity are. In fact, they probably live their life without either.
     
  6. stormountainman

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    Music for Trump's base
     
  7. stormountainman

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    Trump said, "Proud Boys stand back and stand down." Everyone focused on these words. His next sentence was something like: "BUT, Something has to be done about Antifa and the radical left." Or something similar to that. In just two minutes after he said these words, the white supremacists lit up the internet.
     
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  8. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    As I said VG is clueless.
     
  9. Eric!

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    After giving this a little more thought, this debate would have had the same outcome regardless of who moderated it.
     
  10. granite45

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    This “radical left” shit is about as real as a talking jack-o-lantern.
     
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  12. unfocusedanakin

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    He is really feminine with his fashion. All this money on hair, fine cloths, and you know his hands are soft with no callouses. So many red flags for the sort of man who is proud to break his back in a job. Their wives get their hair done while they just tell the barber to buzz it every few weeks. It's surprising to me that all these "alpha" men are OK with this.

    If Biden got his hair done I feel like it would a very funny joke to Fox because you know he's probably gay or eats too much soy.
     
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  13. scratcho

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    70,000 dollars to tame that varmint atop his empty cranium might be thought to be a trifle excessive to those facing difficulties providing food and rent payments for their families.
     
  14. hotwater

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    Trump will be disappointed the ratings for the debate paled in comparison to the 2016 debates
     
  15. egger

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    85% of ad spending on just six states, and mostly states with medium to large electoral numbers.



    How Biden — or Trump — could win 270 electoral votes

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    "The big six: Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Florida, and North Carolina

    "These are six key states that have gotten by far the most attention from the campaigns and election analysts. NPR reported that almost 85 percent of ad spending from presidential campaigns and outside groups has been focused on these states."


    "Eking out a small margin of victory in most of these states can give a candidate a massive Electoral College payoff — as Trump discovered in 2016, when he won all six; he won three of those by less than a percentage point."
     
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  16. hotwater

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    I agree short of putting an electronic muzzle on that rabid dog there's not much a moderator can do.

    He's not going to garner many votes out in the suburbs with that approach.
     
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  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Lolz, lolz, lolz, you crack me up
     
  18. egger

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    Trump Paying Ivanka “Consultant Fees” Is Tax Fraud, Says Watergate Prosecutor
    By Chris Walker, Truthout
    Published September 29, 2020

    Trump Paying Ivanka “Consultant Fees” Is Tax Fraud, Says Watergate Prosecutor

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    "Akerman paid particular attention in his comments to Trump’s payments to his daughter, Ivanka Trump, noting that he listed her as a consultant and paid her more than $740,000, according to his tax filings. As Ivanka Trump was then an employee of the Trump Organization, hiring her to be a consultant for the very company she worked at would be an extreme conflict of interest, one that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) generally takes very seriously.

    “There is no legitimate reason for her to get those consulting fees since she was being paid already as a Trump employee,” Akerman said, adding that the “only possible reason” to pay Ivanka Trump as a consultant was to “move money around so that it wouldn’t be taxed to Donald Trump.”

    In a tweet discussing the same matter, Akerman noted that Trump’s actions were not dissimilar to what his father, Fred Trump Sr., had done in the past.

    “Payments of sham consulting fees to Ivanka to evade income taxes is like what Trump’s father did in paying bogus expenses to a phony company to evade estate taxes,” Akerman wrote."
     
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  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    This guy will moderate the 2nd debate

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    Lolz, even more of a walk over than Wallace

    Gomer Pyles grandson by the looks of things
     
  20. egger

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    An article that alludes to a mathematical relation between between the popular vote and electoral vote that might seem counter-intuitive.

    Trump's 2016 win is a prominent example: a large popular vote loss yet a significant electoral win (though nowhere near a landslide that Trump claims).

    In 2000, Bush's popular vote loss (less than 1%) wasn't nearly as large as Trump's (2%), yet Bush's electoral win margin (5 electoral votes) was much slimmer than Trump's (77).

    At first glance, it seems odd that losing the popular vote by an even larger margin could result in an electoral win by an even larger margin.



    Swing state
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Swing state - Wikipedia

    excerpt:

    "As many mathematical analysts have noted, however, the state voting in a fashion most similar to that of the nation as a whole is not necessarily the tipping-point.[10] For example, if a candidate wins only a few states but does so by a wide margin, while the other candidate's victories are much closer, the popular vote would likely favor the former.[11][12] However, although the vast majority of the states leaned to the latter candidate in comparison to the entire country, many of them would end up having voted for the loser in greater numbers than did the tipping-point state.[13] The presidential election in 2016 was a notable example, as it featured one of the largest historical disparities between the Electoral College and popular vote.[14][15] Additionally, this "split" in votes was much larger in both directions than in previous elections, such as the 2000 election.[16] In that election, Vice President Al Gore won the popular vote by less than 1 percent, while incoming president George W. Bush won the Electoral College by only 4 votes.[16] In contrast, 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by over 2 percentage points.[17][18] This meant that Donald Trump would have picked up New Hampshire, Nevada, and Minnesota if the popular vote had been tied, assuming a uniform shift among the battleground states.[19][20] On the other hand, Clinton would have had to win the popular vote by at least 3 points in order to win the Electoral College, as Trump, the Republican nominee, won the tipping-point state of Wisconsin by less than 1 percent.[21]"
     

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