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I am sure Republicans will spin this how they want to hear it as will I. This is not "racist" to them but it's so telling to me of both Trump and Moore's attitude. The party believes that the tensions that exist now never did. It's only when we talk about them they actuly exist. Like an ostrich with his head in the sand it's not there if I can not see it. "United" and "great America" essentially mean everyone but the white man shuts up.

Not really different from the civil rights movement on the 1960's. It's the white man who is the victim because everyone else is making problems where there are none. How can you call it a civil rights movement when we are very civil to you? Slavery is over and it's separate but equal so why all the fuss there is no racism we get along fine.

Now we say "Black lives do not matter all lives matter". It's the same idea of saying that your grievance is not valid and that white people have the same right to be upset.

Roy Moore: America "was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery"

Alabama’s Republican candidate for Senate, Roy Moore, says America needs to be a bit more like it was when it had slaves.


This is not a joke or exaggeration. When a black man at a September rally asked what President Donald Trump means by “make America great again,” Moore acknowledged, the Los Angeles Times reported, that the country had a history of racial tensions. Then he answered the question: “I think it was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery. They cared for one another. People were strong in the families. Our families were strong. Our country had a direction.”


Moore later added, “The greatness I see was in our culture, not in all our policies. There were problems. We had slavery; we’ve overcome slavery. We’ve had prejudice; we still have prejudice. But we’ve turned the tide on civil rights. And we’ve done a lot of things to bring this country around, and I think we can still make it better.”


The first part of the quote comes from a Los Angeles Times report published in September, but it was recently resurfaced by a viral tweet from former Obama administration official Eric Columbus. The Times later published the full audio.


There are so many problems with this remark that it’s hard to know where to start.


For one, which families, exactly, were “united” and “strong,” as Moore claims? Black families were regularly torn apart — and tortured — by slave masters at the time. Slaves often couldn’t even marry, because their marriages were legally considered void.


Moore’s comments also lay bare what “make America great again” really means. Progressives have long asked when, exactly, America was so much better than it is today.


When black people were slaves? When the country committed genocide and ethnic cleansing against Native Americans? Was it when the country looked the other way as white supremacists lynched thousands of black people? When women and black people were denied the right to vote? When black people were legally barred from white-only schools and restaurants?


Was it when women were thwarted from having meaningful careers? When same-sex couples couldn’t get married, or even go out into public holding hands without fearing for their safety?


The list could really go on. (And some of these still apply today.)


These were all horrible periods for many Americans. The rhetoric of “make America great again” suggests that those Americans — black, Native American, LGBTQ, women, and so on — just don’t matter, or at least that their plights could be overlooked for whatever benefits the country was supposedly producing — for white men — back then.


Moore essentially said that it’s possible to overlook America’s original sin. The time of slavery was the time of, in his view, great things — at least in America’s culture, even though that culture included slavery — and that’s apparently what the country should aspire to.


I asked Hannah Ford, deputy campaign manager for Moore, if he really thinks that the last time America was great was when it still had slavery. She responded, “To suggest such is recklessly malicious. Judge Moore clearly made his point: America is great when our families are united, as in the husband and wife committed to each other and raising their children to be good citizens.” She did not respond to a follow-up question about why, then, Moore brought up slavery at all.


Moore has a history of racially insensitive remarks. At the very same event reported by the Los Angeles Times, he referred to Native Americans and Asian Americans as “reds and yellows.” Prior to that, he compared the Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage to the decision that effectively denied black people citizenship. He has questioned whether former President Barack Obama was born in the US. And he previously argued that Muslims should not be allowed to serve in Congress.

 

I think he wants it so bad that he's trying to fool Americans into voting for him. Let's not forget the Trump brand is probably a little toxic. I think he is doing that because he doesn't want to hamper the chances of another republican senate seat.

I don't think he's half afraid of what Moore can do to him as he is what he will do to Moore's chances.

 

Summary of Roy Moore.

Roy Moore - Wikipedia

 

Raising their children to be good slave owning citizens?

 

Trump and Moore share the attribute of having a long history of combative behavior.

Roy Moore achieved national notoriety after placing a 5280-pound granite monument of the Ten Commandments in the rotunda of the Alabama state judicial building.


For Roy Moore, a Long History of Combat and Controversy
By JESS BIDGOOD, RICHARD FAUSSET and CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
NOV. 18, 2017

For Roy Moore, a Long History of Combat and Controversy

"Mr. Moore, a Republican, has responded with the same defiance that he exhibited when he was twice removed from his post as chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, first for dismissing a federal court order to remove a 5,280-pound granite monument of the Ten Commandments he had installed in the state judicial building, and later for flouting the United States Supreme Court’s decision affirming gay marriage. For good measure, he has declared that homosexuality should be illegal, and that Muslims should not be allowed to serve in Congress."

 

Then they will say they don't own slaves only rich white people did. Well that's true it does not excuse the attitude they choose to have now when they were born decades after slavery. My grandfather still hates that his neighbor is black. He always tells me "it was better when we kept in line" then say how unfair it is for that be a racist thing to say now. Guess who he voted for? Moore's speech reminded me of that. Like my grandpa he will just never get why it's wrong. He existed in a time when it was not. Deep down there is probably a true love of America but the problem is it's the wrong America. Kind of an important document says "All men are created equal". Moore would not be a filthy liberal socialist Communist trying to undermine American values would he?

 

A woman from Iraq once told me Americans see the world in racial terms...through race glasses, or lenses. I think being racially or ethnically aware is fine, as long as one does not hate for racial reasons. If you go out and order Italian or Chinese food, you aren't racist, but are racially aware that Italian food and Chinese food is different. One someone like Trump puts all Muslims in one category and institutes a complete travel band, even covering innocent travelers, well I call that racist. I know that Stalin was not a true communist. He just used a system to move his own agenda...like some one else we know in the capitalist side of the world. Marx would have disagreed with Stalin. I wish that I could just go somewhere and sit next to a sandy beach with a Pina Colada in hand.

 

not wanting to be a total dick, but did you bother to ask this woman how she felt about Jews or Americans?
Muslims are also strongly racist to the same degrees and percentages as any other group.
don't be so naive.
Just because someone ISN'T white or American doesn't preclude them from being racist.
You yourself seem to always side for the "brown skinned" folk, isn't that also racist?

 

Eminem is pissed that Trump isn't paying attention to his dis rap he freestyled.

Eminem angry Trump ‘not paying attention to me’


He's become Stan

 

Noxi, you are right. There are too many Middle Eastern Muslims and Arabs, and Persians too who are racist. They too see the world in terms of us and them. I like a political system which guarantees equality for all...all religions, non-religions, men, women, and the ruling classes who even in America have demonstrated to be above the law. What that Iraqi woman told me is the Americans who had come to Iraq in 2003 saw each group in a separate way. They saw Kurds, Caldians, Shites, Sunnis, Marsh Arabs, and Armenians, and others...so on. They did not see just Iraqis. And there is irony here. I am sure the Iraqis see all Jews as just Jews...just them. They see all Americans as cowboys like John Wayne, or Clint Eastwood. I might add that the Trump ruling class seems to see only money.

 

Trump is too afraid to go to Alabama to campaign for Moore, and apparently Moore is too afraid to show up at his own campaign rallies. What an election!


Days before election, Roy Moore disappears from campaign trail
Brian Lyman, Montgomery Advertiser
Published 5:16 p.m. CT Dec. 9, 2017

Days before election, Roy Moore disappears from campaign trail

 

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An artilcle about Trump's proposed merit-based immigration system.

The same system could be used to keep undesirable politicians and their cronies out of DC.


Trump calls for tougher immigration restrictions after New York City attack

excerpt:

"A "merit-based" immigration system, Sessions said, would mean "welcoming the best and the brightest and turning away not only terrorists but gang members, fraudsters, drunk drivers, and child abusers.""

 

Pretty much half the Republican party?

 

Trump-Russia probe: Mueller 'demands Deutsche Bank data'
5 December 2017

Mueller 'demands Trump German bank data'

From the article:

"Until now, Robert Mueller has appeared to be operating on the periphery of President Trump - focusing on former campaign chairman Paul Manafort's previous foreign lobbying efforts, the Russian contacts of George Papadopoulos, a relatively minor foreign policy adviser, and the post-election actions of Mr Trump's confidant Michael Flynn.

While the charges are serious, the president himself has been removed from the most heated prosecutorial action.

That all changes if the Deutsche Bank reports are true. The German institution, which also has ties to Russian oligarchs, was a lifeline for the Trump Organization's businesses in the early 2000s, when US lenders turned their backs on the then-struggling business tycoon.

How closely did Mr Trump and his associates follow the letter of the law at a time before he was a serious political candidate?"