The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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  2. Meliai

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    People forget the context, or purposely ignore it I guess

    He said we shouldnt take people from African countries, we should be taking people from countries like Norway

    I dont care all that much, I'm not out to prove he's a racist, there are bigger fish to fry. but since you asked, thats why.
     
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  3. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I read a book back in the 70s and bet he read the same book: The Power of Intimidation or Winning Through Intimidation?
     
  4. Noserider

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    Can someone explain to me why saying we don't want immigrants from a continent full of black people but we want more immigrants from, like, the whitest country in the world isn't racist?
     
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  6. NotMyRealName

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    Could it be perhaps that maybe Norway has a better education system, or a similar economic education to our American system than African countries? Never been to Norway so I don't know. Could it be that their base standard of living expectations is more in line with what we'd like to have here?

    Maybe race is simply a by product of these countries and not the underlying reason? Norway isn't showing up as one the leading countries with Aids as an example. The reason for that can be debated as long as you like. Its easy to make it about race if you want to fuel that flame. As you stated Norway is a white nation. Does that make them racist?

    Personally I can see why someone from Norway would not want to immigrate here in the first place.
     
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  7. egger

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    A prime example is when Trump shoved aside the prime minister of Montenegro to get to the front of the group for a photo-op. Trump also adjusted his lepels to look like a showman.

     
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  8. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    First let's start with the obvious, you're introducing a Tu Quoque fallacy in order to excuse Trump's behavior.
    Someone else did it so it's alright for Trump to do it too.


    Second Obama apologized for the comment in the first link. Has Trump ever apologized for anything?

    Third the second link was a joke: Here's a statrement byt the Pentagon:
    Here's a statement by Professor Dr. Robin Ghandi, the man asking Hagel a question.
    Here's the full video.

    Your last post, I didn't research each quote...some appear to innocuous, some appear to taken out of context, and some appear to be racist..... see the Tu Quoque fallacy.
     
  9. NotMyRealName

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    Totally agree.

    Trump has done one thing well. Dominate the media. CNN is pretty much 24/7 Trump now. I wanted to see the mudslides in Ca. Usually CNN is pretty good about that kind of coverage. 6 networks were discussing the mudslides. CNN was discussing Trumps nostril hairs and analyzing which direction they moved in when he gave a speech.

    Didn't say I liked it, just discussing that its a fact. We have a man that turned $22M his dad left him into billions, actually did pretty well on TV ( I never watched any of it), and like it or not won the Republican nomination and the presidency, on his first try. I don't feel anyone that can do this, is stupid. I don't like him at all, but I am not going to underestimate him. If he can accomplish the same as president, I'll get over my hatred of his style.
     
  10. MeAgain

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    Please post this in a separate thread, I looked into the first link and didn't find much.
    Maybe you have a point, but this is a thread about Donald Trump.

    Start a thread about this topic and Ill address your concerns.
     
  11. NotMyRealName

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    I will agree with you on one part. He has never apologized for anything. Not a good quality for sure.

    Deny all you like. There was some insensitive racial comments made by the Liberals in whatever context you want to argue about.
     
  12. MeAgain

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    Look up the definition of race according to the U.N.
     
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  13. NotMyRealName

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    If your going to have a thread on the Trump scorecard, don't give him credit for things already done in a previous administration. Most of what you imply is Trump, has been around long before him. It was just colored in Blue instead of Red so its OK if you're Blue.
     
  14. NotMyRealName

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    or preference based on race,

    PERFECT!

    So based on this, isn't making laws to separate a race to provide them protection or preferential treatment, or allowing them to have their own schools, or affirmative action or etc etc etc etc the very definition of racism?
     
  15. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Did you see the Maddow show last night where she described the Kazakhstan connection to Trump's Florida sales and him receiving a cool million for just showing up at a Georgian resort town to dedicate a Trump tower that never was built, and the connection to a Chromium mining business where the workers were ripped off and the connection to a bank that had 4 billion disappear and end up in Trump real estate in Florida? Oh, what a riveting show Rachel had! I bet Trumpy was just pissed as hell!
     
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  16. stormountainman

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    Like Dude, do you even read? Norway has a socialist system. That is exactly why it works so well! Norway has free public education and free national health care. Norway has the best treatment of workers and they are the HIGHEST PAID IN THE WORLD! The average Norwegian gets $56 per hour! And full free government health care! The government of Norway made investments in European/Japanese/Chinese/Russian/Arab stock markets and other businesses. They made such a smart "Collective" investment that now every single citizen of Norway is a MILLIONAIRE! The Norwegians sent Trump a clear message just three days ago: WE don't want to come to YOUR country! You also should read up on Norway's defense spending...then contrast that with American spending!
     
  17. stormountainman

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    A government remedy to correct racism is NOT RACISM.
     
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  18. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    CNN had a lot of coverage about the mudslides.
     
  19. NotMyRealName

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    I already said I didn't know about Norway. But reading this then yes I'd absolutely prefer them here. I also did a quick read and notice all they invested in. None of it was in Haiti or Africa. Any suggestions as to why you think that is?

    Any correlation to the fact that it appears that Norway's population is 98.05% white? Does that make Norway racist?

    So its safe to assume that African nations and Haiti aren't offering the same type of people. So lets ask ourselves. Would we prefer to be more like Norway or African Nations?
     
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  20. NotMyRealName

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    Its working out so well too.

    I didn't provide the definition reference. Only responding to it.

    I am all about everyone being treated equally. As soon as you show preferential legal treatment to a race, it fuels the very thing it's meant to correct.
     
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