The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. Tyrsonswood

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    Trump responds to McConnell criticism of RNC censure resolution

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    "Former President Trump slammed Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Wednesday after the top Senate Republican criticized the Republican National Committee’s (RNC) censure of Reps. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) and Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) and its characterization of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot as “legitimate political discourse.”

    “Mitch McConnell does not speak for the Republican Party, and does not represent the views of the vast majority of its voters. He did nothing to fight for his constituents and stop the most fraudulent election in American history,” Trump said in a statement, resurfacing his baseless claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him.

    “If Mitch would have fought for the election, like the Democrats would have if in the same position, we would not be discussing any of the above today, and our Country would be STRONG and PROUD instead of weak and embarrassed,” Trump added."
     
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  3. stormountainman

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    Schmidt is right most of the time. The guy knows his stuff because he takes time to read up on the topic and he has a good background in national security.
     
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    Trump responds to McConnell criticism of RNC censure resolution

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    "His latest remarks came a day after McConnell pushed back against the RNC’s censure of Cheney and Kinzinger for their roles on the select committee investigating the Capitol riot. McConnell also criticized the party’s censure resolution for apparently referring to the attack on the Capitol as “legitimate political discourse.”

    “We saw it happen,” McConnell said. “It was a violent insurrection for the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election, from one administration to the next. That’s what it was.”

    RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel has rejected the notion that the resolution’s inclusion of the phrase “legitimate political discourse” referred to those who committed acts of violence during the Jan. 6 riot. Rather, she has argued that it was intended to refer to those who engaged in peaceful protests."
     
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  5. egger

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    Ronna McDaniel is making misleading remarks that aren't correct either way they can be interpreted.

    The January 6 committee isn't trying to squelch legitimate political discourse.

    If she meant 'legitimate political discourse' to be peaceful, legal protests, then that doesn't have any bearing on the Jan. 6 committee investigating violent protests and subversive, illegal attempts to overthrow a legitimate election.

    If she meant it as violent, illegal protests, then she's wrong on that point also.
     
  6. Twogigahz

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    And yet nothing happens. I can understand everyone getting their ducks in a row, but until someone goes to prison, nothing wrong ever happened.
     
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  7. egger

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    Even though the gathering at the Ellipse had a permit and was peaceful, Trump told his followers to march to the Capitol. There doesn't appear to be any permits for such a march and and certainly not for a gathering on the Capitol steps. His words put thousands of people illegally on the steps against the police, a situation waiting to explode.

    Even after Trump was aware that his followers were illegally on the steps and inside the Capitol, he did essentially nothing to stop it for hours.

    Trump could have left it as a peaceful gathering at the Ellipse, but he didn't.

    Such activities warrant investigation, including those at the Ellipse which served as a staging ground for the violence that ensued later, even if McDaniel may perceive such an investigation as an infringement of legitimate political discourse.
     
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    The Capitol police granted six permits for gatherings on grassy park areas near the Capitol complex on Jan. 6 but not on the steps of the Capitol. Each appears to have limited the gatherings to 50 people due to COVID concerns.
     
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    Is not a very good mormon.
     
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    An informative article about the permits issued for gatherings near the Capitol for the January 6 timeframe.


    The Capitol Police Granted Permits For Jan. 6 Protests Despite Signs That Organizers Weren’t Who They Said They Were
    BuzzFeed News has exclusively obtained the permits Capitol Police issued for protests on Capitol grounds for Jan. 6 — a rare window into a secretive organization and its most consequential day.
    Jason Leopold BuzzFeed News Reporter
    Posted on September 9, 2021, at 11:18 a.m. ET
    Last updated on September 17, 2021, at 11:26 a.m. ET

    The Capitol Police Granted Permits For Jan. 6 Protests Despite Signs That Organizers Weren’t Who They Said They Were

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    "Four other permit applications were submitted for Jan. 6 and suspected of being connected to Stop the Steal: those by Bryan Lewis, a private citizen who lives in South Carolina and wanted to “urge Congress to nullify votes from states that made illegal changes to voting rules during their elections”; Virginia Freedom Keepers, which intended to hold a “rally for health freedom”; Women for a Great America, which sought to “pray and worship for our nation”; and Rock Ministries Church, which planned to hold a “prayer campaign encouraging pastors, leaders and citizens to pray for the United States.” An additional permit was requested for Jesus Lives, which sought permission to pray for the United States."


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    The Capitol Police Granted Permits For Jan. 6 Protests Despite Signs That Organizers Weren’t Who They Said They Were

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    "The officer reported advising Brown “of my concerns of not being able to regulate their numbers to 50 persons or less,” he wrote. “I explained that once information is on social media it is hard to regulate the number of participants. If his event is in fact one in the same Capitol Police will not be able to accommodate his event to the participant numbers being out of regulations and a public safety issue.”

    In an interview with BuzzFeed News, Martin acknowledged his affiliation with the two groups but said he could not explain what One Nation Under God’s mission was, how it was formed, and for what purpose. He said he had not seen the permit, could not explain why his name was on it, and was unaware that the demonstration had been capped at 50 people."
     
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    Del. Plaskett says Jan. 6 rally didn't have permit to march to the Capitol until Trump stepped in
    By Morgan Phillips and Marisa Schultz | Fox News
    Published February 10, 2021

    Del. Plaskett says Jan. 6 rally didn't have permit to march to the Capitol until Trump stepped in

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    "The permit stated in no uncertain terms that the march from the ellipse was not permitted," Plaskett said. "It was not until after President Trump and his team became involved in the planning that the march from the Ellipse to the Capitol came about."

    But while a "march" was not allowed, the permit for the Jan. 6 rally also mentioned that some participants would head to the Capitol.

    According to the rally permit, provided by the National Park Service to Fox News:

    "Women for America First will not conduct an organized march from the Ellipse at the conclusion of the rally. Some participants may leave to attend rallies at the United States Capitol to hear the results of Congressional certification of the Electoral College count."

    There does not appear to be any subsequent permit granted for a march at the request of Trump.
     
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    Del. Plaskett says Jan. 6 rally didn't have permit to march to the Capitol until Trump stepped in

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    "Plaskett used one of Trump’s tweets against him, pointing to how the former president praised MAGA fans who reportedly tried to run a Biden campaign bus off the road in Texas on Oct. 30.

    People in several trucks formed a so-called "Trump Train," and surrounded the bus on Interstate 35. Witnesses said the group of Trump trucks was trying to get the bus to slow down and run it off the road.

    Plaskett displayed a Trump tweet with video of the incident. "I LOVE TEXAS!" Trump had added. The portion where the "Trump Train" tried to run the bus off the road could not be seen.

    After the FBI announced it was investigating the incident, Trump posted a subsequent tweet: "In my opinion, these patriots did nothing wrong.""
     
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    Del. Plaskett says Jan. 6 rally didn't have permit to march to the Capitol until Trump stepped in

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    "Plaskett said the leader of that caravan, Keith Lee, was among those who stormed the Capitol.

    "These are the people that President Trump cultivated who were standing by," she said.

    Trump said after he made the comment that he did not know who the Proud Boys were."
     
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    "Proud Boys... Stand back, and stand by" ~ Donald J. Trump
     
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    Giuliani tried to use a clerical error, later corrected, in Antrim County that initially showed that BIden had won as an excuse to confiscate the voting machines.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/02/09/giuliani-antrim-prosecutor-voting-machines/

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    "In the weeks after the 2020 election, Rudolph W. Giuliani and other legal advisers to President Donald Trump asked a Republican prosecutor in northern Michigan to get his county’s voting machines and pass them to Trump’s team, the prosecutor told The Washington Post.

    Antrim County prosecutor James Rossiter said in an interview that Giuliani and several colleagues made the request during a telephone call after the county initially misreported its election results. The inaccurate tallies meant that Joe Biden appeared to have beaten Trump by 3,000 votes in a Republican stronghold, an error that soon placed Antrim at the center of false claims by Trump that the election had been stolen.

    Rossiter said he declined. “I said, ‘I can’t just say: give them here.’ We don’t have that magical power to just demand things as prosecutors. You need probable cause.” Even if he had had sufficient grounds to take the machines as evidence, Rossiter said, he could not have released them to outsiders or a party with an interest in the matter."
     
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    That statement by Trump was hardly a rebuke of the Proud Boys that he was asked to give during the presidential debate.
     
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    It wasn't a rebuke at all, and it wasn't meant to be... Trump got cornered with that question and had to come up with "something" that would shut up the moderator and not piss off his base at the same time.

    I knew when he said that, that there was going to be trouble in the future... It was pretty obvious.
     
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    Exclusive: DHS warns that trucker protests in U.S. could begin on Super Bowl Sunday

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    "Another federal law enforcement official who is involved in aspects of the planning ahead of a possible U.S. convoy told Yahoo News: “We are tracking this like it’s a real threat because we think it has the potential to cause all kinds of problems, violent or otherwise.”

    “We don’t want a lot of angry people storming D.C., we’ve seen that before,” the law enforcement official said. “So for now, we monitor movements and see who these people are, if they pose a threat not just to D.C. but of course to anywhere else along the way.”"
     
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