The Donald Trump Score Card

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    Trump will probably try the 'color of office' approach to try to move the GA case to a federal court by saying he was using his powers as president to try to overthrow a legitimate election in GA. That's an awkward stance to take. He would be essentially admitting guilt while trying to move a trial to a different jurisdiction.

    Trump tried to move the NY Stormy Daniels money funneling criminal case by Bragg to a federal court by arguing that he was charged for conduct that was committed when he was president, and that his conduct was under the color of office. Trump lost.

    Rep. Mo Brooks tried a similar approach by saying he was acting as a Congressman when he helped incite the riot at the Capitol and therefore deserved help from the DOJ in defending him against civil suits stemming from the riot he helped cause. The DOJ declined.
     
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    Michigan man pleads guilty to assaulting officer in U.S. Capitol riot

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    "A Michigan man accused of assaulting police officers while participating in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol pleaded guilty Tuesday to one felony count of assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers while using a dangerous weapon.

    Matthew Thomas Krol, 64, of Linden, is to be sentenced Dec. 15 by U.S. District Judge Rudolph Contreras in Washington, D.C."
     
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    Then again, that the American voters could elect him president for a second time would change the course of our country in so many ways...... Forget democracy. Forget the legal justice system. Forget the Constitution. Forget the dignity and decorum of the upper reaches of our government.

    I always (foolishly) reasoned that the force to prevent the election of a person like Trump would be the common sense of the American voters. How stupid was I? That a person could lie, cheat & steal his way through 4 years in office, yet have people claim that he's the greatest president ever makes one lose faith in......well, everything we've always held to be true about American government.

    That these 'Trumpies' can look at the indictments only as a political tool being used to 'get' Trump without even considering the content of the charges themselves represents their way of showing that POTUS should be above the law......so long as he (or she) a Republican. The resulting chaos of every election afterward, stemming from the actions of both political parties, would shred our system of government.

    After all, if Trump is acquitted of everything and a Democrat president does some of the same misdeeds in the future, the GOP would scream that the actions are illegal, while the Dems respond: 'What illegal? If Trump could do them, why can't I?

    What a friggin' mess.
     
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    It raises another question: If Trump becomes president again in January 2025, would people like McConnell say that he is eligible to be be impeached and tried in the U.S. Senate and removed from office for the January 6 riot, this time not being illegitimate like McConnell had claimed in 2021?

    Or would there be another excuse by people like McConnell, such as saying that Trump can't be tried again because he was already impeached and tried for the Capitol riot in January 2021 and was acquitted in the Senate (albeit McConnell saying it was un-Constitutional to do so after he had already left office in 2021).
     
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    Giuliani is now a defendant in a case involving RICO laws, the ones he championed when he was a prosecutor in NY.


    Rudy Giuliani, who pioneered the use of RICO when he was a US attorney, just got indicted on RICO charges

    Rudy Giuliani: From ‘world’s mayor’ to election denier charged by the mafia laws he pioneered

    Rudy Giuliani is furious about being charged with same mob law he claims he pioneered
     
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    Now the GOP thinks we are stupid. I am so glad they lost this issue vote.
     
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    OK, it's time for mug shots and time for Trump to surrender his passport. He's probably got his go bag packed for Bolivia to leave at a minute's notice.
     
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    The GOP leaders appear to be reading from the same script: 'Trump shouldn't be tried in court. The voters should decide his guilt or innocence at the ballot box.'

    They voters already did in 2020.

    Trump lost and tried to overthrow the election, which is why he's being prosecuted.


    Sen. Lindsey Graham’s Defense Of Donald Trump Goes Spectacularly Awry
     
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