The Donald Trump Score Card

Most so called "illegals" come by plane and never leave. It's not that hard to say you want to visit America and even the hardcore Trumpers have done nothing to stop that. The best way is not to sneak over the Texas border it is to take a vacation and become employed on it.

 

You must have ever been in an international airport flight. You don't enter the U.S. without passing thru customs. It's not an optional thing.

 

What on earth are you talking about? He's talking about tourist visas.

 

so if one claims to be above the law, isn't that an admission of a dictatorship?

 

Yes tourist visas. And in my experience a foreign country wanted to know what I was doing in the country. If I said vacation that was ok. They also wanted to make sure I had enough money and that I would not be a burden on them. So like do I have medical insurance because even though they would treat me I don't pay tax so they prefer not. And will I be seeking a job while here because I that is illegal I need a permit. Besides that no one cared. I have never tried to enter America as a foreigner but I bet it's the same thing.


A Mexican can easily lie about all those things and be working in a field or restraunt where English is no needed.

 

Trump and His Lawyers Embrace a Vision of Vast Executive Power
By Charlie Savage
June 4, 2018

Trump and His Lawyers Embrace a Vision of Vast Executive Power

excerpt:

"But the Trump team’s claim that obstruction-of-justice statutes do not apply to the president carries new twists.

For one thing, such disputes have tended to arise in the context of a president, in his role as commander in chief, pushing legal limits to defend the country from foreign threats. Even the Nixon administration rationalized surveillance of domestic political opponents, including antiwar and civil rights leaders, by citing worries about potential covert Soviet subversion.

Mr. Trump’s lawyers, by contrast, are claiming that he is “the chief law enforcement officer” — a description usually applied to the attorney general — wielding absolute power to command the actions of every federal prosecutor or F.B.I. agent in a way no congressional statute can limit. And he is doing so in the context of an investigation aimed at uncovering the scope of a foreign power’s covert meddling with American democracy — and whether he personally obstructed that inquiry.

The implications of Mr. Trump’s claim also go beyond the context of his lawyers defending him in a criminal case. If obstruction statutes cannot stop Mr. Trump from shutting down an investigation even if he did so with a corrupt motive, then Justice Department procedures and regulations also cannot stop him from ordering an investigation into his political opponents for corrupt reasons.

Those factors make the Trump lawyers’ claims different from assertions by previous presidents that the White House can lawfully bypass important statutes, said David Kris, a former senior Justice Department national security official during the Bush and Obama administrations who is a co-founder of the consulting firm Culper Partners.

“Trump is doing this not for national security reasons but to impede an investigation into himself and his associates, and he’s staking a far more sweeping claim to power than even other presidents by saying he can use the Justice Department for whatever he wants,” Mr. Kris said.

He added: “They are saying not just that the president is above the law, but in effect that he is the law — that he is the personification of justice and cannot obstruct himself. That is very stark and not very persuasive.”"

 

The Flaw in Trump's Obstruction-of-Justice Defense
The president isn’t above the law, whatever his lawyers may claim—but prosecutors will face an unusually high burden to prove any misconduct.
by Benjamin Wittes
Jun 4, 2018

The Flaw in Trump's Obstruction-of-Justice Defense

excerpt:

"But here’s where we come to what I think is one significant flaw in the president’s legal theory. Major criminal investigations seldom do take place entirely within the executive branch. Criminal investigations take place in a complex interaction between the Justice Department and grand juries, which are instrumentalities of the judiciary, and they end up in court in criminal proceedings. A facially valid action taken in the service of managing the executive branch, if taken with specific intent to commit a crime in order to influence a judicial proceeding, can theoretically violate statutes designed to protect the judicial function."


"What if the president directs his Cabinet to do whatever is necessary to shut down the Mueller investigation—not specifying the means or ordering anyone to do anything illegal, but making clear that he will issue whatever pardons are necessary to anyone who effectuates his will. The president, in such an instance, would do nothing but engage in the lawful function of directing the senior officers of the executive branch—without even specifying a particular action, just a particular outcome. Would we really say that the fact that he has the authority to direct the conduct of the executive branch substantively immunizes him from a charge of obstruction? If one of his Cabinet officers subsequently takes dramatically illegal action based on his direction and promise of a pardon, does the president have no criminal exposure here?"

 

Oh gotcha. They come in as tourist then stay illegally. Yes Trump is attempting to plug the lax enforcement an illegal takes advantage of.

 

Trump issued a statement about the Eagles football team that all must have their hand over their heart as the anthem plays. This is the same Trump who forgot to put his hand over his heart when the anthem played at the 2017 White House Easter Egg Roll and had to be reminded by his foreign-born wife.

 

Trump's mode of thinking asserts that, as President, he is the chief law enforcement officer and thus has the right to encourage witnesses to engage in behavior that thwarts an investigation, including ones that concern him or national security, and that he can shut down an investigation completely at any time if he wishes.

Nixon made a similar (but not as bold) claim about Watergate that he was covering up issues for political reasons that he asserts were non-criminal. Nixon essentially claimed that he had a right to do so without being held accountable by being charged with a crime or being impeached (see the David Frost interviews of Nixon currently on Youtube).

Trump's mindset asserts that he has the absolute right to pardon his associates (and himself) for acts that they are committing now or for which they might be charged later. His recent talk of pardoning various people appears to be a veiled message that he will protect his loyal associates with pardons later. Gerald Ford engaged in a similar behavior by preemptively pardoning Nixon for crimes that may have occurred during Nixon's presidency for which he hadn't yet been charged.

Going beyond the claims of Nixon, Trump also claims that it is impossible for him to obstruct justice because, as the self-proclaimed chief justice official, he would be obstructing himself, not anything else. It's an isolated, self-centered, ultimate-authority mindset that Trump is above everything legal and that any type of charge against him doesn't really exist.

In Trump's mind, prosecution of him is fictitious. He can pardon himself and others of offenses for the sake of clearing his name and defending himself against what he perceives is a corrupt justice system and one that is below the level of his ultimate authority.

 

The Frost/Nixon interviews.

The interview starts at about the 9 minute mark.

 

Most people who Republican Trump supporter call "illegals" are in fact just ordinary immigrants...with proper papers.

 

Trump must be very nervous right now. Maddow said these criminal cases will continue and their documentation will be for the public domain...even if he pardons himself and everyone on his crew.

 

They'll say anything ...to their FOX audience.

 

Maddow said all the criminal investigations/processes (Russian defendants & Manafort & other) will continue even if he fires Mueller and pardons himself and all the guys working for him. All that documentation is public domain information. It will be a long time before the Republican Party recovers from this damage.