The Donald Trump Score Card

Trump's press secretary Sean Spicer is reminiscent of the former Iraqi Information Minister of Saddam Hussein.

Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf was at least willing to take questions.


http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf


Notable quotes:

"We have them surrounded in their tanks"

"The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies and more lies!"

"I have detailed information about the situation...which completely proves that what they allege are illusions . . . They lie every day."

"Lying is forbidden in Iraq. President Saddam Hussein will tolerate nothing but truthfulness as he is a man of great honor and integrity. Everyone is encouraged to speak freely of the truths evidenced in their eyes and hearts."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAeMtcURg0

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Gf0mGJfP8

 

As long as we do not have to put up with this "White Nationalist" bunch for too long, we should be able to ride out this wave of racist evil that has invaded our country.

 

Now that people are comparing Trumpy's government with Saddam's dictatorship people are starting to get the picture.

 

I remember John Locke wrote about when one party exercises total arbitrary power over another!

 

Not only he is a pathological liar, his entire cabinet is full of billionaires who first wanted to eliminate the agencies that they have been appointed to lead. And Each has lied about how they love the land, water, clean air, civil rights, voting right, women's rights, sexual rights, animal rights, medical rights, and Non-GMO food, Talk about blowing smoke up the voter's butt!

 

Don't forget that global warming is caused by communists who want to take away you second amendment rights.

 

BBC talked about this a week or two ago. It would be a big cost for the US to move the embassy, but the anger it would cause all over the Middle East (Not just to the Palestinians), is the biggest problem. This makes it a bigger target for terrorist attacks, and will increase terrorist attacks against US targets, including domestically in the US, as it raises tensions further. Israel is also considered an important holy town to the Arabs as well.

We can't say that he is trying to resolve the Middle Eastern situation if he is angering everyone. He wants to stop allowing Muslims to enter the US, register Muslims already living in the US, spend a bunch of money to move the embassy to Israel---what is he telling the Arab world? What is he even telling our Arab allies and friends? If I remember right from the BBC report, even Netanyahu and Israel are against moving the embassy.

Seems to me what he is telling the Arab world is, 'We don't care about you or any of your beliefs and values. We are ready to take on every one of you ba$+@#!$.' He is clearly trying to make trouble!

 

David Friedman background.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-israel-ambassador-david-friedman-232717

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/world/middleeast/david-friedman-us-ambassador-israel.html?_r=0

 

I agree 100% can't even play devils advocate like I normally do.
But is this actually news. Is this news worth spending any time on national TV with?

As for the mountain men...yup trump lies.
And??????
Should I go and list the first 100 lies presidents have told? Should I list all of the thousands that presidents have told? Or should I spend every waking hour posting the lies that every presidential candidates has told?

 

How can we give a grade, today is the man's first full day on the job...

 

When you are biased you don't give them even a day.

 

To start, I'm not gonna get too deep into this. Mostly out of respect for the OP and keeping this thread on topic. Because if I get too descriptive, this will be a conspiracy theory post that will quickly get deleted for being in the wrong thread.

That said,
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/11/07/another-fake-bin-laden-story-paul-craig-roberts/
http://www.infowars.com/10-facts-that-prove-the-bin-laden-fable-is-a-contrived-hoax/
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/11/opinion/the-death-of-bin-ladenism.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-big-lie-obama-did-not-kill-bin-laden/5448927
https://www.rt.com/usa/257557-bin-laden-raid-hersh/

You say you trust your government leaders, but have you ever considered the fact that they lie to you on a regular basis? Would it make any difference to you if Navy Seals government officials recited my same Sasquatch story? Lets just sit back, relax, and not question anything corporate news sources feed us, yeah sounds great. When I first heard the news about this 5 years ago, I was skeptical because they showed no pictures because they were "too graphic," yet they had no problem showing us Ghadaffi's gruesomely violent final moments on cable TV. They told us they gave him a "proper Islamic burial" out at sea, but there is absolutely no such tradition in Islam to bury their dead at sea. They quickly demolished that rickety old compound where they allegedly found him, before any independent investigations could be made.

The reason conspiracy skeptics are painted as crazy, is because they see us as a threat to exposing their lies. Yes there is a lot of noise and misinformation that stem from rumors and bad reporting, but it's gross how so many people allow their political biases accept everything at face value.

 

Thanks for sharing your sources. I agree this is likely to be an off-topic digression.

 

I agree that this is getting off-topic, but your breathtaking comments do relate to the mindset behind the Trump phenomenon. The sources you cite are, for the most part, conspiracy sites or pro-Russian news outlets and have the credibility of supermarket tabloids. The exception is the New York Times, but what is curious about that is it seems to say exactly the opposite of what you and the others are saying. The article you provided from the Times begins and ends with the words "Osama bin Laden is Dead", and they say nothing to challenge the official version of how that came about. InfoWars , website of far right polemicist Alex Jones, has been labelled a fake news website [11][12][13][14] Jones is described by the New York Times (9/8/14) as "America's leading conspiracy theorist" and self-described as a "pro-Russian propagandist . He thinks the U.S. Government was behind 9/11 and is even more extreme than you in saying the moon landings were fake. My favorite was his allegation that Hillary and Osama Obama are real demons.https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/us/politics/alex-jones.html You also cite Paul Craig who thinks the Sandy Hook killings were fake,and that Al Qaeda's involvement in 9/11 was "unsubstantiated"(despite AlQaeda's assertions to the contrary) . Global Research is a consistently anti-American website that supports North Korea and the late Gaddafi and is a major outlet for Holocaust deniers and Russian propaganda. RT (Russia Today)? What can I say? The website describes itself as "Devoted to the Russian View on Our Global Politics." And these are the sources that shape your worldview?

You ask have I considered the fact that government leaders lie on a regular basis. Yes, I have. But have you considered the fact that some of the sources you seem to give credence to are also liars and wingnuts, and that the reason they are painted as crazy is because they are? You give as your reasons for skepticism about Bin Laden's death as the fact that "they" didn't show the pictures because they were too graphic, and point out that "they" had no problem showing us Gaddafi's gruesome death. The "they" you're talking about is two different "theys", the U.S. Government and the news media. If you're thinking they're all the same "They", you're accepting a conspiracy of massive proportions, including the entire mainstream news network. The U.S. government has to consider reactions to its actions in the Middle East, including concerns about making Osama into a martyr. Hence the inital reluctance to release gruesome photos or to provide a burial site that could become the focus of rallies. The decision to withhold the photos was based not on our own delicate sensibilities but on the potential to engender anti-American violence, which wouldn't have been the case with mob-torn Gaddafi. The photos were shown in private viewings to members of Congress, including Oklahoma's own right-wing nutjob and Obama hater, Sen. Jim Inhofe, who assured us, they sure were gruesome, and it was him. You're right that Islam doesn't provide for burial at sea, but it does prohibit cremation. If they couldn't cremate him and couldn't bury him, that narrows the alternatives.

Questions about who or what to trust are basic to human existence. Some folks with Ph.D.s are convinced we live in a Matrix-like condition in which our "reality" is an illusion. You could be a figment of my imagination devised by evil Martians to keep me and the rest of us occupied while they take over the world. Some folks thought Sara Palin would have made a great President, and obviously some thought the Donald would. Not I. At some point, we have to make existential choices about what is real. It's ultimately a matter of risk-taking, or as believers like to say, "faith". I like to narrow the odds by drawing as much as I can on available evidence, reason, book larnin', personal experience and intuition on the assumption that all of these are relevant to good judgment. Obviously, my judgment is radically different from the Palin fans and you.

If we want to pursue this further, which I really don't, we maybe should start a different thread.

 

Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.

 

I see I misread the NYT article, dated 2002. The author was stating his view that Osama was dead long before the alleged raid, based on his inactivity and rumors of his demise. The story is that he was buried in Afghanistan and that his followers kept up the story that he was still alive. There have been similar rumors about Bagdadi, but he still seems to be alive. If this is evidence that the raid didn't happen, it's highly circumstantial, oblique and seemingly speculative. If true, it would be the ultimate conspiracy--between the U.S. and Al Qaeda to keep the dream alive. But consider an alternative conspiracy theory: that reports of Bin Laden's death in 2001 were calculated to throw the U.S. off the trail, and they were revived by right wing sources after the raid to undermine claims to Obama's and Hillary's vaunted achievement. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/05/09/6-wackiest-osama-bin-laden-conspiracy-theories.html

 

Summary by The Atlantic.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-promises-cheat-sheet/507347/

 

Looks like those pipelines are a go. Trump is taking executive action today to advance construction of both the Keystone XL and Dakota Access oil pipelines.http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-trump-meeting-auto-executives-4500809

 

Lots of trump articles there none that mention the pipe.