The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. egger

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    Trump railed against an alleged Deep State and later created his own personal, nepotistic, narcissistic version answerable to no one.



    Bill Barr is spiraling out of control
    Palmer Report » Analysis
    Isabel Stamm
    10:30 am EDT September 27, 2019

    Bill Barr is spiraling out of control

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    "Under Attorney General Bill Barr and Assistant Attorney General Steven Engel, who is heading the OLC, the office – which is accountable to no one in particular – has played a pivotal role in shielding Donald Trump from congressional oversight. Among other things, the Office of Legal Counsel has declared that Congress may not obtain Trump’s tax returns and has asserted that the president’s counsel and senior advisers have immunity from congressional investigation.

    In recent days, the current DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel has flexed its muscle again, inserting itself into the processing of the Ukraine whistleblower complaint by simply asserting that – contrary to ICIG Michael Atkinson’s judgment – the complaint was not urgent or credible and should therefore not be passed on to Congress. Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who handled whistleblower complaints in the aftermath of Snowden, told CNN’s Anderson Cooper that he wasn’t aware he had had the power to withhold a whistleblower complaint from Congress, thus pointing out the unprecedented nature of what Acting-DNI Joseph Maguire did under the OLC’s directive, which is in clear opposition to the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA).

    It is quite ironic that the Trump regime, which regularly and loudly denounces the devious workings of an imagined “Deep State”, has managed to create for itself such a powerful tool that it resembles the notorious Court of Star Chamber of King Charles I and operates outside the provisions made by the American Constitution."
     
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  2. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Ugh, that first link, The Guardian Uk? Come on


    "The 1,140 economists, including 14 Nobel prize winners, sent the letter on Thursday amid an escalating row over trade between the US and the European Union. Trump has imposed tariffs on steel and aluminium imports but has granted temporary reprieves to the EU"


    You wouldnt get those 1140 agreeing on what triggered the Great Depression

    What Trump is doing isnt a full scale Trade war. And the trail end of the Brexit period at the end of this year is a good time for the US to pounce on the EU for 6 months or so, German slowdown should still be happening at that stage


    That 1930 tariff act was like half of all imports being taxed at 50, 60%

    Comparing that to slapping on 12.5% for 6 months to get everyone nervous. Thats a bit ridiculous

    The 1930s no one knew what they were doing, who to listen to....just that in itself makes it a little bit ridiculous, or at least overly dramatic in comparing the two events

    One of those Nobel laureates is that Roth Guy, famous for testing Shapleys theories, Shapley the guy famous for power indexes in game theory; its not the power of a decision itself, its the iteration of choices leading up to it. He should know better, and he probably does.

    Sign a letter assuming Trump is crazy, and this is going to go on for years....but if it doesnt...and the plan was for it to only go on for 3 or 4 quarters....and it works....then yes, that makes all those 1140 wrong, or at least a little trigger happy on the drama

    The world needs to ween itself off China. Guarantee you get the mini UK EU trade war starting middle of this year
     
  3. onceburned

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    people say bill barr is out of control...he might be drilling close to the nerve
     
  4. Okiefreak

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    There were five other links.

    Without knowing how far he's going to take it, who can say. His latest victories have made him confident. Maybe overconfident.

    Sounds like the present to me.

    Now you're really reaching!

    Again that word "if".

    Back to the future!
     
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  5. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Dont think its reaching to say one or all of those 1140 might have jumped the gun a little

    And since the letter is in response to EU tariffs, and not Chinese tariffs, Im going to go ahead and assume most of those 1140 are inside the EU

    Chinese tariffs, its around the 10% range for about 5% of products, not even close to 1930s madness
     
  6. lode

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    Trump released his new budget, and above the other important things it suggests cutting, the CDC in the middle of a foreign epidemic.


    I do support more NASA funding though. And Space Force it I"m being honest with you guys.
     
  7. Asmodean

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  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I got the day off, and couldnt be bothered with anymore boring reading, but anything about cutting healthcare or old fart payments?
     
  9. lode

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    From that article, involving Medicare...."The budget does call for changes to the Medicare program,"

    Whatever Medicare doesn't pay, I have to pay... I guess that's "indirectly" affecting my costs? But not directly affecting my costs... Or some bullshit like that.
     
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  11. lode

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    Nuance for half the argument... CNN is kinda the worst.
     
  12. Meliai

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    Plus it will drive up costs elsewhere because healthcare providers will try to recoup the loss they're taking from medicare in other ways. So the uninsured can expect rising costs. The insured can expect rising premiums.

    And then libertarians will point to this and use it as an example of how government meddling in healthcare drives up costs. So that's something fun to look forward to
     
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    I support the research NASA does, but I am opposed to more space exploration, and definitely opposed to the space force.
     
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  14. Asmodean

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    Why opposed to more space exploration, Flag? Isn't that for a large part connected to research?
     
  15. What space needs is more guns.
     
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  16. Asmodean

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    Huh, I would swear i already read a response to this??
     
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    NASA does a lot of research on climate, and earthquakes.
    I am just saying that money could be better spent on things here on terrafirma.
     
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    Post of blogger about Trump's judicial selections:


    "Just keep on approving those incompetent 30-year-old 4th tier law school grads with sterling neo-nazi credentials as lifetime federal judges."
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2020

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