the FUCK is wrong with music now?!?!?!?!?

"the FUCK is wrong with music now?!?!?!?!?" ?
As with every generation - "The times they are a changing"!

 

I'm sorry, I did not realise this whole thread was only about your preferences for music.

Yes, but music tends to change along with the times, with reggard to its trends and style, which does not seem to apply to the times we are now living in.

 

Yeah I don't bother with poular music with today either, I kinda just leave it be. It's what kids listen too and I know there's nothing I can do, but I look it as I'm not the one that's listening to the music so why should it bother me. However I will agree that the music has indeed changed over the years. I've began listening to a lot of older music lately and bringing out all my old CD's that I had put away.

 

Double post, please delete.

 

Thanks for apologizing but it wasn't What i ment with that is that it is your problem with most music, not the problem of most music. All music is inspired by and copies the good things from older music. That doesn't mean it lacks originality at all. Imagine what new music would be like if every artist would shun this practice of copying elements from older music 100%

 

popular music is horrible, we're long past the days where amazing bands make it mainstream, but that doesn't mean good music doesn't exist. Some of the best music I've come across in the past few years have been regional bands. I figure if my region can have a strong local scene there must be good local acts everywhere. Dont expect the radio to spoon feed you what you should listen to. Get out there, go to shows, find good music. Its out there.
I'm pretty sure I posted a similar response in this thread like two years ago. Oh well.

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Some of the worst music (imho) was made with the idea of creating something completely original (e.g. some 'progressive' 80's synthesizer stuff and some of their current indie lo fi whatever counterparts). I understand taste is very subjective but for me it only make sense to look at the history of grooves, rhythms and melodies in order to create a solid piece of music.

 

There are only seven musical notes because thats the limit of harmonic vibrations the human ear can really distinguish

What ever crappy bands you think were awesome back in the day stole their music from someone else at least the musical style and you would really have no idea if one of those melodies was borrowed from somewhere else


There has been roughly just over 100 billion humans to have ever lived, for roughly a bit over 200,000 years

You think in all that time, something like the Beatles "Love me do", the melody in that, you think they were the first to come up with that basic combination

Da Dah Dah Da Da, Da Dah Dah da da its probably popped up a thousand times between Crog banging bits of wood, ancient china, ancient persia, 13th century england, south american folk musos finally through to 4 liverpool lads sing "You know I love you. sp ple-ee-ee-ease" then after that another couple hits were bangs took the melody, changed a note and no ones really the wiser

There are only seven notes, nothing about melodies at least has been original for thousands of years

 

Imagine a superb band like Creedence (for example!) not copying ANYTHING musicwise from older styles, or using anything from bands before them as inspiration. Would it be original? Probably. Would it sound as great as they actually do now? Impossible!

 

When did music not copy past music?

Or to put it differently, when did musicians not learn from older musicians and their music?

 

Copying and being influenced by past music are two different things.

 

Yeah and sometimes the boundary between them is a bit vague. Especially when the focuspoint is inspiration and originality. Samples in newer kinds of music are a good example.

 

Samples are beyond copying, thats out and out plagerism as far as I'm concerned.

 

Well it is not that you are hopelessly biased about music that makes use of samples (even if they are properly credited) You never seemed to got into any of the genres that make use of samples anyway. Wich makes your opinion nothing more than a prejudice.

 

It wasn't an assesment, you basicly said so yourself in earlier threads. So it is more of an observation. Why call me a name if it doesn't carry any weight?

 

I think I excluded most boldly offensive ways to state you are being prejudiced (and being boldly offensive is what impudent seems to mean).

Is it really already impudent to state someone is judging from a prejudice when that is obviously what formed your stance here? Or are you just taking the easy route by quickly concluding I'm an impudent punk for plainly stating you are prejudiced where it comes to samples in music?

 

Yeah, like Woody Guthrie was influenced by many of the Carter Family songs.

 

Who is more creative:

Some guy mixing samples into a new piece?
or Chuck Berry playing Johnny B. Goode for the 90,000th time?

(I'm not asking which music is better, that depends on your opinion of Johnny B. Goode)

Bob Marley's This Train is a wonderful piece of music. The world would be a poorer place if he hadn't covered it.

 

That's a good example, Mike

And it is not a contest which music (or musician that made it) is more creative. Maybe for musicians that have mastered an instrument that now see guys behind the mixing table getting lots of succes it feels like that. But good music is good music, it is all between a person's ears if they dislike it simply because the sounds in their song aren't played by the artist himself.

 

It's laughable you just hold up some boring (to you) though quite original music as a defense for sampling, lol

There's nothing inherantly wrong with sampling itself, one of my favorite composers used sampling, (he only sampled himself and his band, he was the creator of the original sounds) but using a sample of someone elses musical recording or performance, IMO (sheesh)is not a creative act. It would be like me taking a picture of your painting, cutting out a small piece of it, photoshopping it and call it my 'art'