my friends guns were legal in england and for a very long time it was not until recent . what school did you go to? . and your crime rate was much lower then .
That is not realy answering anything i was saying .. illegal gun smuggling has not much to do with attitudes towards guns and the use of them. I don't mind being told i am wrong on something if you tell me Canada has the same attitude towards gun use as America
Ahmedabad: A police constable was killed and a homeguard jawan injured when a gang of highway robbers attacked them near Uchchal village of Surat district on early Wednesday morning, police said. The incident happened when constable Madhukar Ramdas along with homeguard Jehrabhai Balakiya were on a night patrol on National Highway no 6 between Surat and Dhulia when they saw a gang of about seven robbers trying to loot a truck. Ramdas and Balakiya went to intercept the robbers, who resorted to heavy stone-pelting, police said, adding "the constable also fired from his rifle". Ramdas who received severe head injuries was later attacked by the robbers with sharp-edged weapons, police said. He succumbed to his injuries in the hospital. The robbers escaped with his rifle and police have launched a manhunt to nab them
On August 9, 2000, Mr. Otta Vass, was killed, without ant ground, by the Toronto Police Pigs at 14 Division, at the College Street where Major Nourhaghighi lives and has 10 years continuous conflict with the corrupted police officers in this unit. The new Witness on August 17, 2000 has told to the Special Investigation Unit ("SIU") that heard Mr. Vass, 55 years old from Hungary, crying for help by shouting "Help me, Help me!"; who was killed, with brutality hits in the head, legs, and arms by police batons. The other witnesses have fears fro these dirty Cops to approach to the SIU, while the SIU is an agency from the Attorney General of Ontario, that itself, plans several tortures and felonies against Major Nourhaghighi. The SIU Investigator Jones, on September 1994 has stolen a master document from the hands of Major! NOW these dirty thief investigator wants to investigate and Judge Lampkin or a judge like him that has stolen Major's Exhibits during trial wants to try the case, then a reasonable man will say
Stop Killing Innocent People by the Canadian Police Brutality www.geocities.com/nourhaghighi/canada1.html This is a serious complaint against the brutality of Canadian Police and the corruptions in Canadian and Ontario Judiciaries, pursuant to provision of 1503 procedure. Today, again the Metro Toronto Police has killed an innocent citizen, OTTA VASS, by beating him in the College Street, in front of 7-Eleven parking lot, near Lansdowne Ave; and as usual has libeled Mr. Vass as having a history of emotional problem to cover-up the crime of the police, as they did in many other cases and with support of dishonest Canadian Medical Systems have created fabricating evidences that those victims, like Mr. Edmond YU were all suffering from mental problems. Who should stop these dirty Queen Elizabeth Pigs brutality in Toronto? We are very frustrated and the UN just closing eyes toward all British Colonial crimes in Canada. Since 1994 the UN have ignored all my complaints against government of Canada; I feel pain, as myself several time were tortured by the Toronto Police, and whole my basic rights guaranteed were destroyed by the Ontario Judiciary who does not have any respect for Human Rights and Freedoms. Even we do not have right to select the Board of Directors for our residential condominium, then who can claim Canada has democracy? My total income for year 1999 was less than $1900/year; less than $159/months for my single parent family, NOW the UN is declaring Canada has highest standard of living, while since 1990, I am not employed and the government did not provide any educational program that I be able to get any kind of honorable job; I do not have right to own anything, even my automobile plate was illegally suspended in year 2000 by dirty Mayor Mel Lastman, for fraudulent allegation of Parking Fie of 199! When the Limitation Law says in case of prove by the trial judge two years from cause of action! The dirty Queen Elizabeth's Mayor Lastman, is responsible for death of Homeless people in the City of Toronto, while Lastman made order to its dirty pigs Toronto Police to assault the Homeless People who were sleeping in the parks. Where ever you look there are serious violations of human rights against citizen; Why the UN inspectors do not evaluate the Canadian Governments' violations HONESTLY? Is it fear to think that either YOU are receiving BRIBES to create false reports that RICH people immigrate to Canada that Dirty Queen Elizabeth Corporations and Banks get richer; OR you are so stupid that JUST looking to the Fabricating and Fraudulent Statistics created by government? This dirty Government of Canada, is able by all kinds of frauds to prove that the Earth is the stationary; is the UN is so STUPID that just look to the Canadian's reports? I, like millions people in the World, wish that the UN was never exists. The harm that the UN has brought for the Human Society, never any cruel dictator brought for us. I hope at least you investigate THIS CASE against Canada. Keyvan Nourhaghighi 608-456 College Street Toronto, Ontario, Canada M6G 4A3 A copy of this document was sent to some German, France and other Embassies in Toronto.
I am convinced by this one story pulled from god knows where.. that all people all over the world should be issued with a firearm.. I apologise for the sarcasm (a little)
hehe you know i might agree here with you . but look i live in miami florida i seen it all , i heard it all, i been thru hurricanes, the early 70s in my youth here, miami riots. the reason i mention hurricane is people act very strange when water ,food , electric power is out for months, and while we here depend very little on police for our protection you can imagen after a huge natural disaster. im not going to twist your arms and leg any futher . british did own guns until very recent = for the second time.
and your crime rate was much lower so your argument holds very little water. also british are highly educated people who live in a much much less fast pace rat race like we do with all kinds of white trash, black trash, latin trash, this not a little country were people sip tea. i have also heard of other british concern with muslims living in the UK. WE DONT FEAR ANY ONE. if you think or dream we live in a constant fear from terrorist you are 100 wrong . even after 911 . they pull that stunt in new york in 911 . well i could high jack a plane in 2001 and slam it into the parlament building too and kill the prime minister , but you can bet a lot of smart british wont loose sleep over it.
Not legal during the 20 years I have been living so I wouldnt know. But let me tell you this, i can get hold of a firearm for £200, but that would mean I am buying with the intention of using. And so would be everyone who has a gun, at one point of their life time they intend to use it, otherwise why but it, right? People are imature enough to stab eachother over insults mixed with a bit of alcohol. Heck, people are crazy enough to walk down a mall with a samurai sword for no apparent reason and massacare 7 people or even stab an innocent mother walking her baby down a park in the neck and again, without a reason so, just stop and think for a sec what it would be like if firearms would be legal. Your probably going to say "well if the mother had a firearm she would have been able to protect herself from the criminal". Probably true.. But then again, one day the mother could lose her patience with life and her abusive husband and go on a killing spree with her firearm before killing herself. Try and understand what im saying to say. Most people are not headstrong and considerate enough to take the responsability of a firearm.
Maybe outside of london people do sit and sip their tea while watching T.V. there for they wouldnt even feel the need of a firearm. Im 100% certain most firearms sales and use would be taken place in the London reigion. You rely too much on what you "hear". I dont accept ur point of view as being under a certain knowledge.
Crime rates we could be here all day.. you would be suprised how a lot of people are not that educated we have our fair share of 'trash' not wishing to be too pompouse about all that though. We don't all sip tea play cricket say 'tea vicar' .. it is just as cosmopolitan an 'rough' as a moderate state in the US. There is concern with muslims in this country , it is called racism and has be going on for decades on both sides ..plus every other race on race racism. Every 'new' group of immigrants gets picked as the prev' on 'blends in' and starts bein prejudiced against the 'new lot' not everyone of course.. that will go on till we become extinct i would imagine. You don't have to be 'NOT AFRAID OF ANYONE' .. neither are we.. but enlightning anyon and anyone who will listen hardly makes a friendly atmosphere, thats the aggresive attitude i was talking about...i don't mean to prewach though i realise it is just a 'positive mental attitude' (sort of ). I don't believe you guys live in fear but you seem to like talking about your grief and getting 'closure' (no offence). You also get fed the myth very one hates america' a awful lot.. maybe apart from zealots most people around the world could not give a toss for you americans but you need 'attention' who knows your maybe just the flavour of the century i suppose . It has been erm ... a pleasure actualy, violently of subject for most of the time but hey if you want to tell me further you objection or 'praise for I.D cards go for it.
naval gaze , shoot people , make realy bad TV programes about hard working cops/doctors/firemen .. by any chance ?.
look try going to the beach "a real beach" riding my yamaha 1100 jetski, maybe i take out my 4X4 honda atv and ride in the swamps and do a little shooting with my favor toys . or go out on saturday night ride my FZR 1000 sportbike. is funny in 36 years here in miami i never witness all this shooting the british see on tv shows, im glad i dont live over there.
why do you get so angry and personal? chill... it's supposed to be a debate... you're gonna do yourself an injury