The Joseph R. Biden Score Card

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  1. TheGreatShoeScam

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    That was a disaster yesterday debate. I haven't watched any news yet but I think everyone all the MSM is saying its time to stop running.

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  2. Eric!

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    The debate (how it was moderated, controlled) was different, Biden wasn’t at his best (recovering from a cold), Trump continued to spew more and more lies and senseless fear mongering, shaming our country, and mocking our democracy. The debate wasn’t going to change voter’s minds, they already know who they’re voting for, regardless of how well or how poor their candidate performs at the debate.
     
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  4. MeAgain

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    The problem is the American public, and especially the media, focus on appearance rather than substance.

    If we look at the substance of the debate, Biden hit a home run. If we look at the appearance, Trump won.
    The moderation was terrible. Trump did nothing but lie and the moderators never pointed that out, never questioned his responses, never held him accountable. He was given a free pass to lie and lie again.

    Biden is not a great public speaker, never has been, Trump is the con man's con man.
    But Biden knows how to govern while Trump is an idiot.
    The only question is, does the public want a loud mouth show off dictator, or a man who stutters yet can get the job done?

    Never understatement the stupidity of the public. We'll see what happens.
     
  5. Eric!

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  6. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Oh stop the fear mongering there will never be aborting ban in America or any of that. Sick of this issue being front center every 4 years sick of it.

    All the states will sort it out in one or two election cycles.
     
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  7. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Problem is they couldn't have an honest primary and install their puppet like they did back in the days before the internet by controlling all media. So they let Biden become the nominee to intentionally manufacture this crisis then install the candidate of their choice not ours.

    It was so manufactured, the week before the election Biden bumble videos go viral so the public won't be as shocked by what they were trying to hide then as intended he flopped and now they get to 'rescue' us from the crisis at the last minute without that hassle of having the voters pick a candidate with an honest primary process.

    Yes the week before the debate they got us all ready. They have known bidens condition for a long long time.

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    How would a nominee be chosen on the floor?
    On the first ballot, a winning nominee would need to secure the votes of a majority of Democrats’ roughly 4,000 pledged delegates. If no candidate won a majority on the first ballot, Democrats would continue on to a second ballot, in which so-called “superdelegates” would have an opportunity to vote.

    Superdelegates are mostly senior Democratic party leaders, and they would go to the convention not pledged to any candidate. With the roughly 700 superdelegates added to the voting pool, the winning candidate would then need to secure about 2,300 delegates to capture the nomination.

    Although superdelegates would make up a relatively small share of the delegate pool, they could play an important role in choosing the nominee. Their support for a particular candidate would speak volumes and could sway fellow delegates. ""


    They screwed us out of a primary. So we could not pick a candidate with both appearance AND substance.

    Can't have someone like that pest Bernie Sanders messing up their plans. Or an RFK JR on the stage pointing to all the elephants and naked emperors they ignore even if he had no shot at winning he would change conversation to topics not allowed.

    A Trump win isn't the worst thing anyway, we might make more progress anyway because opposition to stuff that needs to change grows. Trumps bullshit lead to George Floyd riots that resulted in more progress then if a democrat president fast tracked knee on the neck cop to jail and protestors just went home for example.

    But forget that. The candidate they install will probably beat Trump but they still screwed us big-time.

    Bigtime bigtime bigtime. Our choice would have beat Trump for sure too. Voter selection by default choses the person with the greatest chance of winning haven already proven they can get votes.

    Total manufactured ripoff 2024.
     
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  8. Eric!

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    Well, until that happens, IF that happens, we’re definitely going to hear about it all the way through this coming election. This topic will never go away. It’s not “fear mongering- people are actually dealing with this issue as we speak!
     
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  9. MeAgain

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    National party conventions weren't held until 1831.
    During the convention candidates were nominated and voted on by delegates from each state.
    This became corrupted when local party bosses meet in back rooms to decide who they wanted to be a candidate and then instructed their delegates in how to vote.

    JFK changed that when he campaigned in multiple state primaries in 1960 and showed that he had public support, not party bosses.
    Today the presidential candidates are chosen by how well they perform in the primaries, the super Tuesday primaries in particular.
     
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    Fear mongering?? Last I checked Roe v Wade was overturned. This is a very real issue
     
  11. Eric!

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    All this talk about Biden being too old is getting on my nerves. This country had a sitting president, several decades ago, who was physically handicapped- had polio, in a wheelchair! Franklin D. Roosevelt! Yes, Biden stumbles now and then, has a bit of age on him, but he still has his faculties and talks some common sense most of the time. The alternative, Trump, is not an option for me- Never! As an independent I want someone who will lead, with true leadership attributes- Period! They don’t have to be perfect. A candidate lousing up a debate is no reason to just pack it up, go home and call it quits. Stand behind your man!
     
  12. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Its also July 4th coming up and some states are total ass-wipes by making fireworks illegal so what do people do? They take a trip to a state that sells them and bring them home for their party.

    How many abortions do people want??? Oh big deal travel to another state, we have modern transportation. Its not the 1700s you don't have to go on the back of a horse. Going to the next state is not difficult at all.

    "A new analysis from the Guttmacher Institute’s Abortion Patient Survey estimates that one in four (24.7%) US women of reproductive age1 will have an abortion by age 45 if the 2020 abortion rate remains constant."

    One in four women like once in a lifetime and most states don't even restrict it so one in what 12 women have to take a little road trip to another state once in their lifetime to get their nasty abortion. Probably less then 1 in 100 so "inconvenienced" once in a lifetime little trip to get their nasty abortion.

    "People are actually dealing with this issue as we speak!" Not many not enough to hijack the whole debate over the next president.

    Stupid shit takes over the presidential election every year since I was old enough to watch it.
     
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  13. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Presidents job is to do stuff like this. Biden can't. That dude doesn't have any "great wisdom" either. Biden's greatest "accomplishment" was Americas mass incarceration atrocity. Built more Jails then any nation in the history of mankind.

    Dudes no FDR. Not by a longshot.

     
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  14. Eric!

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    You shouldn’t HAVE to travel to another state to get this procedure, especially if it was legal in the state you reside in to begin with. It’s total bullshit inconvenience.
     
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  15. Eric!

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    Neither is Trump.
     
  16. MeAgain

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    Women want just as many abortions as they need. It's not up to you or Big Brother to determine who needs an abortion. It's up to the woman and her doctor.

    Allowing individual state governments to determine the health considerations of individual women is draconian. Why should any government be allowed to determine anyone's health considerations? Why should a woman need to travel to another state to visit a doctor or get a medical procedure?

    The Guttmacher Institute’s Abortion Patient Survey stated that, "...restrictions passed in some states in more recent years have been particularly onerous. The increase in abortion restrictions, ...may have also motivated more individuals to attempt to self-induce an abortion outside of a clinical setting."

    Self induced abortions are not a good thing.

    "For example, one study estimated that more than 100,000 women living in Texas had ever attempted to self-induce an abortion,28 and some may have been motivated to do so because of difficulties in accessing clinical abortion services.13 "
     
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    Rarely are so many lies dispelled in a single moment. Rarely are so many people exposed as liars and sycophants. Last night’s debate was a watershed on both counts.

    The debate was not just a catastrophe for President Biden. And boy—oy—was it ever.

    But it was more than that. It was a catastrophe for an entire class of experts, journalists, and pundits, who have, since 2020, insisted that Biden was sharp as a tack, on top of his game, basically doing handstands while peppering his staff with tough questions about care for migrant children and aid to Ukraine.

    Anyone who committed the sin of using their own eyes on the 46th president was accused, variously, of being Trumpers; MAGA cult members who don’t want American democracy to survive; ageists; or just dummies easily duped by “disinformation,” “misinformation,” “fake news,” and, most recently, “cheapfakes.”
     
  18. MeAgain

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    Biden has protected overtime pay for the comman worker, protected birth control (thus reducing abortions), established the Office of Gun Violence Prevention, made renewable power the second biggest source of power in the U.S. ahead of coal and only second to natural gas, ended discriminatory mortgages, ended junk fees, allowed the U.S. to inspect Chinese trading firms, eliminated fake electors in national elections, established the Replicator program to fight Chinese drones, etc., etc. etc.

    Biden gets things done. He isn't the youngest, he isn't the best orator, he doesn't have the best public image...but he knows politics, and he knows what's best for the country.


    Biden didn't start mass incarceration, that started in the 70's with Nixon's War on Drugs and was continued by Reagan's mandatory sentencing.
     
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    It’s funny to hear all the “debate experts” chime in. I never realized there were so many perfect people in our country. This debate, and this talk about the debate, will eventually lose its importance, as soon as the next shiny object presents itself. I will say as soon as this Monday when the corrupt, morally compromised Supreme Court presents its decision on Trumps presidential immunity claims. If the Supreme Court backs that bullshit- I can assure you that heads will spin, and Biden’s performance at the debate will certainly be the least of anyone’s concerns!
     
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  20. MeAgain

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    You looked at a moment in time, not the total accomplishments of Biden's presidency and you ignored Trump's embarrassing amount of lies and misdirection.

    If you would have listened to Biden's policy statements, between his admitted stuttering, and compared them to Trump's outright ignorance and insistence on ignoring the questions and lying every time he opened his mouth you would be singing a different toon.

    Trump was loud and ignorant. Unfortunately many people in the U.S. like loud mouth bullies. Makes them feel like they fit in as they like someone who claims to know more than the experts as they hate it when their own ignorance is exposed.

    The media failed to hold Trump accountable. His lies should have been called out by the moderators, but they gave him a free pass concentrating on Biden's appearance and speech patterns instead.
    "Oh look Biden had a bad day"...one day, while Trump led an insurrection and has been convicted of 34 felonies.
    Amazing.
     
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