The pharmaceutical industry is using people as test subjects

People are animals.

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens

Source, wiki

 

I feel it was clear what I sent by what I said

 

the pharmas have several purposes:
-making money
-making people dependent and controllable
-dumbing down people by lowering their consciousness
-keeping people sick to make more money and keeping them down

 

I thought it was clear what I meant by what I said; not as sure now.

Why do humans deserve less respect than other animals?

 

I'd rather they test it on death row inmates

 

actually they can if the inmate allowed it. Sure they test on inmates all the time. But Should a man/women be innocent down the road..

Lucy you got some explaining to do..

 

Oh, yeah, I am MUCH 'sicker' now that I have my raging psychosis under control from a pharmaceutical product. My amazing transformation from raving lunatic unable to even leave the house let alone have a job to being in a well-known graduate program in Mathematics. But, no...I am MUCH sicker. Yup.

 

not every pharmaceutical product meets all the points there maybe in your case its just point one making money. Was your drug expensive?

 

I am supported financially by the state Medicaid program, so it costs little to me. However, it IS expensive w/o insurance. So, it fits ONE of your 'points' perhaps, but you shouldn't generalize ALL pharmaceuticals are fitting ALL or even MOST of your 'points.' I agree, however, that things like advertising drugs on TV commercials is a bit ridiculous and inappropriate.

 

and how do you know you wont suffer from some side effect in 20 years in form of a new disease?

 

well if they test on people the results will be more useful

 

That isn't my priority right now, because I would be dead from suicide or serving a lengthy prison sentence for violent crime if it were NOT for the Zyprexa. There would be no such question as to my health 20 years from now, because my future would be trashed. Believe me, if you suffer from what I have suffered before being given the Zyprexa, you would understand where I am coming from. I am not talking about 'being a little moody' or 'edgy'. This is true psychological terror I am talking about. I wouldn't wish Adolf Hitler to go through what I dealt with for 7 or 8 years.

 

what you have is triggered, I am sure, by chemicals in the environment or by another drug

 

I think you are pushing this too far. I almost find what you are saying offensive, as you are seemingly discrediting the validity of my condition because it isn't as obvious as a broken leg or something. I have dealt with this sort of 'silent' discrimination my whole life, and although you may not REALIZE that it is rude, believe me, it is. It is the same as telling someone with a congenital defect that their defect is not 'real.' I advise you to not speak in this manner to other people with real mental illnesses, as we all find it insulting. Thanks.

 

ignore the trolling please etkearne

 

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I was just wondering about what triggers mental illnesses in so many people these days and the most interesting explanation for me seems all those chemicals we are exposed to.
I am also sure that the strong increase in cancers, autoimmune illnesses and allergies are due to chemicals.
this is not discriminating at all.

 

I just figured someone with that many posts must be legit. Oh well. I will no longer post in this thread. Bye.

 

etkearne is a model of how the drugs should work. unfortunately they don't always do that for others.

if you took a look at the profile of the drugs such as Anti- Psychotics. Overlaid with the brain activity. What you should get is a genius mind in a much more calmer state.

Depends on the subject. I have a Veteran friend also a highly skilled electrician. Id say he has an autistic mind cause he can take a circuit schematic and redraw it from his head.. But he is out of control with no medications. And he is also not familiar with their actions. When they being to work he quits taking them and thus the cycle continues.. back to VA psyc ward for days at a time til stable, a few months fine and back again. He can not help himself because he does not understand mental health or chemicals.. Impo..

 

Thank you orison. what interests me are first the reasons for a mental defect:
-most certainly all the chemicals we are exposed to
then I am interested in how you can heal such a defect
-I am sure that shamanism in combination with certain psychoactive plants can take care of most problems. A good shaman knows how to treat these mental problems.
-Pharma industry I would not trust easily becaus their main purpose is another than for good curing illnesses without side effects. Its making money for example but there I wrote something already.

 

What they don't tell you even while listing all the 'possible' side effects is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to know all of them

Especially long-term side effects and drug interactions.

I witnessed a 90-yr old woman that was on a cocktail of prescriptions suffer from a sudden onset dementia after being prescribed an ANTIBIOTIC

She literally started hallucinating constantly, talking to people that weren't there, having irrational fears and paranoia from adding an ANTIBIOTIC to her drug cocktail.

It went away a week after she stopped taking the antibiotic.

They have NO CLUE what the side effects and interactions might be