the Pope has crossed over

Hmm, stating fact is "being bitchy" while making up stories about people based on nothing is acceptable behavior? OK, then I'm bitchy (when people make up untruths to prove some point which has no basis in fact.)

 

No one stated any facts, we were asking questions, note the question marks....

Awfully touchy about the fucking pope aren't you?

 

No, not really, as I disagreed with the man on most matters such as birth control, abortion, and gays. Just the absolute ignorance of the Catholic Faith, down to the near accusation that the Pope was in "cahoots" with the Nazis, despte the lack of ANY proof, which cause my need to set things to FACT.

 

Maggie, look back, it says

"in cahoots with the germans/italians ?"


A question mark followed the phrase...

 

Yeah, why even SAY that, when you had absolutely no proof?

And the "Italians" as a whole, were totally against Hitler. Most Italians hated Mussolini and were happy to see him hung by his toes half way through the war, when the Italians joined against Hitler completely.

 

Because its a fucking question, he was asking if the pope was,

thats how people learn, from asking questions.

 

So now you have learned..........

I just don't understand WHY it had to be phrased to IMPLY that he was going along with Hitler? It was done that way. WHY?

Anyway, the truth wins out.

 

I don't know what you are talking about now.....it was phrased like a question.

 

this doesn't in some way IMPLY that he WAS? Why not just ask, or do a search, why IMPLY that he was doing evil things? Unless the people who did so wanted this to be the truth? (I am asking a question, so I can learn.)

I'm right, I am not going to argue about this anymore.

 

well, we could always just search all the answers ourselves, but that would greatly reduce the number of threads on an online forum....or we just make up imaginary people to talk to instead of coming here at all

Besides, it seems you had plenty of fun finding the info to prove someone wrong who wasn't even stating a point...

 

Yeah, it was a blast.

 

My Suspicions:
You know exactly of that I speak but since it doesn't support your Position of
the church not affecting non-catholics...

Overall, the catholic church is more militant/less forgiving than other Religions when it comes to violating their "edicts".

These "families" you know prolly
are above the Poverty level/
aren't on Welfare/other Taxpayer funded 'assistance' programs/
don't have >5 kiddos.

Fact:
"I don't beleive you have any idea what you are ranting about."
is absolutely incorrect.

Ranting:
I believe your Posts fit that category better than mine but we all know Opinions are like...

 

Marvelous, simply marvelous...*c*

 

As for the "cahoots" Issue, those interested may read
http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/contents.htm


I only skimmed it but saw things I've heard on the news/read of previously.

I didn't cut n paste as I'm having PC difficulties (another app is consuming the lion's share of my resources)/
want to avoid being accused of being 'biased'.

Me, biased?
I'm only non-PC. *L*

 

LickHErish and Curious Mutation, I said that dicton thinking that at least we could have the good sense to wait until a dead guy is burried before starting talking bad about the man. If you want the virtues of Hitler, well I could find a few among the many evil things he did, but this wasn't the point. I'll tell just that: if I would meet on the street the funeral of Hitler, I would keep my mouth shut, not out of respect for the dead bastard, but out of respect for its family greef. And, by the way, only airhaids could compare John Paul II to Hitler.

 

Hey sugarbaby! I was raised a Catholic and happily I was intelligent enough at a very early age to realize it all for what it really is.

Delusional hawgwash!

Of all the Nuns and Priests who have slithered in and out of my life over the years the only one I can speak fondly of is Father Guido Sarducci (Bless his heart).

 

First off noone compared John Paul II to Hitler. My retort was in direct relation to your claim that none should speak but good of the dead. Nothing more.

If you would keep silent even after Hitler's death then I consider you as much a sheeple as all those who kept silent during his reign of terror. At no point in life or death should the crimes of those who horde power over others be left uncondemned. Those who grieve such passings are to me just as anathema to the human race as those for whom they grieve.

As for John Paul, my condemnation is for the endless sycophantic drivel with which all commercial media has been inundated day and night in further demonstration of its penchant for elevating the cult of personality above the precepts of true investigative journalistic scrutiny of public figures. The clear priority is to sell advertising airtime by pandering to the lowest standards of tabloid-styled glitz rather than being the voice of the citizenry against criminal abuses of power and wanton self aggrandisement.

The man is dead, may he rest in peace. Now let the media turn a critical spotlight on those who are causing the greatest harm to the future of our nation and our planet so that they may be held to account. That is the role of the Fourth Estate.

 

he was good human ,we will miss him.All Poland is black and sad now.He wrote before death: "Be happy .I am ." but it's so hard now.I'm not catholic and this sadness is not about "head of the church" but about good man.Maybe is so strong because I'm polish and he was my countryman ,so good old papa from polish mountains...

 

No jozak, I dont champion Stalin. we already went through this.... I believe in communism, which is stateless communalism... why would I support the USSR? The USSR was a totalitarian state, not a communist one.

Sure i mite talk about the USSR and the russian revolution a lot, but that is only because it interests me and I know a lot about it and within the revolution is the timeline of events which I think shows that communism never existed in the USSR.


I say communism, you think USSR, i think something that hasnt been seen before...

Its never been about whats he done to me, i try to look out for the rest of the world that cannot voice their opinion. The catholic church rapes cultures, and has been known for causing wars and persecuting people with the same beliefs as me.

The catholic church has too much power, it's time for it to collapse. NOW.

 

That is flase. Pope Pius helped out thousands of Jews during WWII. There really was not much else he could do, he didn't have an Army to fight hitler.