The Psychedelic Revolution

take it in a good way and know that you're not the only ones on here that spend too much time here

 

if truth was subjective then some of the most tyrannical events in human history can become justified. the terrorists beleive that it is true that they should sacrifice their lives in order to kill innocent americans. that is their subjective truth. anything can be justified in the name of subjective truth.

maybe i do embrace duality, but that doesn't mean that i just think of things in black and white. on the contrary, i think that alot of people on these forums are so caught up in the view of the world that all is one and everything is permissable they they can't see beyond that. that was part of the original intent of this thread, and what i meant by 'the revolution has left the streets and entered our minds.'

lol i know, here i am thinking 'wow, does this guy have a job or what'

but no worries. here i am without a job.

 

Yup, my job is setting you straight because your WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG !!!!!!!!

 

subjective truth is just as transpa

 

if anyone here ever figures out how to have the good without the bad, lemme know, otherwise imma keep trudging along.

 

Where else does it exist? Or rather, where else could it exist?
There is a strong dividing line between you and those who are not you, all hocus pocus pop-spiritual beliefs aside.
Other people's pain is not your pain. You do not feel what they feel, and so their pain is not the opposition to your ecstasy, their yin is not your internal yang.
Attempting to use other people's pain as a platform to perpetuate endless selfish ecstasy not only strikes me as unappealing, it also somehow seems reminiscent of sociopathy.

 

haha. bringing it back is always the hard part. i think that what is craziest for me though is when you come to a realisation and you end up on some crazy journey that parralels the revelation that you had, with people that all have already had the same revelation. sometimes it almost feels like there is a ton of people that have already realised these things and they are just waiting for us.

the simple idea that someone could know the truth raises endless problems and possibilities. so many, that alot of people have turned from the path of truth, saying 'that's impossible!' or 'all anyone ever does that claims to know the truth is hurt other people.' but i like to think of it as if that if there was truth, it would not cause friction with other ideas, but still be strong in it's foundation and unyielding. but naturally this will have to cause friction in some aspects with people that won't just let your truth be because it presents a threat to their tyranny. to some people, truth is the most terrifying thing in the world. but simply that truth would be based out of the idea that truth would be fair to everyone. but people are still human, and are still going to fall short sometimes, even with the best intentions.

it was great talking with you autumnbreeze. i hope i didn't offend you in the sexuality arguement. your not entirely wrong in alot of aspects. but i've really spent too much time in this thread. i mean 50 pages is just rediculous. be good.

 

LOL, and you wanted to know what makes your thoughts Judeo-Christian in essence.

Let me guess, the thing that women can do that men can't that is important to society is to look good and spit out babies right?

 

aww cmon stop being grumpy neodude and accept the offer from me and smith and become our martyr.

think about it. you'll live in infamy for all time.

 

That would be so epic and magical dude. It's like a cosmic and timeless waiting. I almost feel as if it could be real too.



Come on though, only 8 more pages!

 

Yea, and once you realize something, it's permanent in our appraoch. And we totally pride ourselves in great truths we have found and felt. God, that was beautiful, so beautiful forever. From now on this is who I am. LETS WRITE IT ALL DOWN IN OUR DIARY to read when we feel the urge to cry.

 

Lol what

 

what he said^

 

or lash out because you're an egofreak drama queen.

 

Yep, those synchronisities align just right when the energy is flowing. Lets you know your on the right track, that things are going the right way. But also gives you the illusion that your incomplete and slightly slanted view of the ineffable is the -One True Way-. Because, all these synchonisities and people who have had such similar revelations, that's confirmation that you got it right, right? Except... Others have had the same experience. For truths that contradict yours. And when you realize -that-, then what?

The thing that raises problems and possibilities isn't that someone could know the Truth. It's that so, so many people all are so firmly convinced that they've got the truth down, and they all disagree on what it is. The problems arise when people that have a tiny glimmer of the truth on one level take that as an excuse to claim to be -right- about everything. And use it as an excuse to enforce their will on others.

Your stance on men and women is a great example. You have this glimmer of truth that is lighting one tiny corner of your life and it's given you this notion of your own infallibility in judgment on other levels. Your ideas about revolution -might- be another. You worry so much that not everyone is on your path, that not everyone is on the John Lenin kick you've got going. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the psychedelic revolution get back to 'the streets'. I'd love to see heads start coming together and sharing ideas, figuring things out, and making real changes. But the universe is moving with other currents right now.

Heck, one of the reasons we're having trouble coming together is all the ego. Heady mystics with personal revelations of the divine are notorious for having a hard time handling each other. Humility is a lesson that comes hard for visionaries.

Hmm, you did offend a touch, but not too much. I'm too damn used to that kind of viewpoint to be too offended. It's the baseline, the default position. Irritatingly, a similar position, though a bit more self-loathing and bitter, is pretty damn common amongst women. Everyone's raised with a bit of sub-conscious contempt for the feminine. Getting past that is a challenge. So although hearing it bugs me, it doesn't cut too deeply. Hate the sin, love the sinner, right?

Btw, I'm sure you didn't intend it, but this: "your not entirely wrong in alot of aspects." comes across as incredibly arrogant. It's good to know that the Master of Truth thinks I'm not entirely wrong about everything all the time. Sometimes I'm only part wrong. Go me!

Like I said, I know you didn't intend it quite that way, but that's kinda how it comes across.

 

dude how do you know your "realizations" are "truths?"

Tingly feelings in your body =/= truth.

More than likely, simply the reasoning part of your brain agreeing with some thought, and sending the respective signals.

 

Is this a response to me or Desos?

 

most likely Desos, or he would have said Dudette.

 

To Desos, but to anyone in general that would like to prove that statement right or wrong.

I mean... I very much would like to believe in awesome realizations and such but... ya.