it is entirely possible, but I doubt that in the aggregrate women are under reporting by 100% that would mean 8 instead of 4. Also it is possible that the men are over-reporting.
That's crazy math. The hetero numbers have to balance out. 9-4=5, so who are the other 5 partners that the guys are sleeping with to get their totals up to 9? Space aliens? Every time a straight guy gets a new sex partner, a straight girl does too. Maybe these stats include gay sex. That would make sense, since about 4% of the guys are going to have a large number of male partners, inflating the averages. And the women are under-reporting. The average of 9 and 4 is 6.5, a number I can believe.
6.5, well who's the 1/2 partner? Is that the one where there was no penetration? I say we round up to 7. Much more realistic number IMO.
I didn't fuck all of my boyfriends. No they don't. If there are 5 men and 5 women in a room, 1 guy can fuck all 5 women, and each of the women will only have had 1 partner. Sure they are. Society dictates that a man is a a stud, and a woman is a slut. So everybody lies to look good.
:rofl: It also needs to have a good music program and a drama school. It's the arts majors who really know how to have a good time. And it's better if it isn't in a big city. If you don't have easy access to "civilized" clubs and bars, you have to get creative and make your own fun. It's a mathematical average, like families having 2.5 kids. I've never seen a 0.5 kid in a shopping mall. That would be a bloody mess! I thought Canada had better public schools than the US. atriot: The one guy gets a +5 for the day, and the other guys gain 0. The total change for all the men that day is +5. Each of the women gets a +1, so their group total is also +5.
i lived on campus for a year, and i saw absolutely nothing to suggest that anything like this happened at my school. hell, all the really crazy stuff happened off campus anyway. but still nothing like this. i knew this girl pretty well. i know, almost for a fact (just short of having actually witnessed it), that she did.
4, 6.5, 9 they're all single digit numbers, which is several magnitudes away from 100+. off all the male friends I have had that I knew well enough to get a rough sense of the number of partners they had, most have had substantially fewer than my 10. Only one has had countless partners that he claims in excess of 100. Like I have mentioned I have only known one person, my cousin to be in an open relationship. My wife's best friend Veronica has a cousin who apparently had around 150 partners. she tried monogamy, got married and had 2 kids but is now divorced. Most people are serially monogamous until they find a life partner hence the low number. there is a subset of this group who had a brief period of promiscuity in college but became monogamous by their mid 20's. I am not making a moral judgement, I am just saying that most people have less than a dozen partners in their life and most don't look back fondly at their sexual history. I don't long for any of my previous partners, my wife is easily the best I have had. People who can have sex without emotional commitment are not inferior to monogamous people but they are different, as different as homosexuals are from heterosexuals. This forum is open to all viewpoints so all opinions are valid whether the poster is a bukkake slut or a virgin nun. what is amazing though is how defensive and hostile the men who espouse sex positive lifestyles are toward those who defend monogamy and how they wish to deny that there are consequences to their lifestyle.
Why is it ok for them to be slagged off for their views and/or lifestyle, but it's not ok for them to become hostile when, say, someone infers that their type are "diseased people"? Double standards, much.
if you're looking for an apology for that comment you got it. I admit I was taken aback by the revelations of many on this forum but I have learned something, too from the process. I am not going to try and dissuade you, jacobklein or any other man from your choices but in my heart I believe most women want true love, fairy tale stuff but they settle for less because women learn at an early age to make peace and compromise. you have my apology so do me the favor of watching these two scenes from my favorite movie Rab ne Bana di Jodi. it is in Hindi but has English subtitles and says everything you need to know about my view of romantic love. Watch them in order. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXXEkKXVVxg"]Raj will show Suri's Love - Scene - Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-RTWq4e9io"]RNBDJ-love scene/sad scene - YouTube
I don't want the fairly tale crap but I agree that most women earlier on want that and then cave in and marry an average dull guy. I knew a Muslim girl named Jehan (after Shah Jehan) in college. She was a fake, stuck up, prissy princess bitch who wanted a wealthy Muslim prince. She ended with some run-of-the-mill Christian guy and now her name is Jehan Jones or something, just any old guy you could bag and tag. I think it's sad that men get exactly what they dream of, the hot prostitute or stripper at the party or something, but women don't get the fairly tale prince, just any old nice guy. Another reason why I'm not falling for society's lies. When I was a little girl I watched fairy tales, but wanted to be a senator.:biker: That shifted as your private life becomes public and I don't believe in God.
There's no telling how much stuff was going on, right under your nose. I probably walked past that place where they had the S&M parties a hundred times before I had any clue what went on in there. I remember one dance I went to where there were two university employees checking student ID's at the door. Every now and then, they would take three steps inside and look around for a few seconds. I'm sure they left that night thinking they had successfully been in charge of an ordinary, uneventful dance with a DJ. Well, I thought it was a success too. All the other rooms in that building were supposed to be locked, but somebody borrowed a key from a grad student earlier and got copies made at the hardware store, so that couples could get some privacy whenever they wanted it. And that one romantic couple over in the darkest corner of the main room wasn't just dirty dancing, as it had appeared, like several other couples had done. She told me the next day that she unzipped his pants and lifted the front of her skirt a few inches, and he quietly fucked her in front of everybody. Of course, lots of people paired up at all kinds of college social events and left together, leaving most people to guess what went on behind closed doors. Surely you've seen that. And then there were the totally depraved spring and fall break beach trips, the mountain ski weekends that involved little or no actual skiing, etc. The dealings I had with one particular fraternity were kept completely under the radar. They were very good at keeping secrets, because they were very tough on members who leaked any information to nonmembers. Do you know what a frat whore is? Girls who trade sex for drugs and alcohol. Once they get that deal, they usually keep it for at least a semester or two. They've been around for decades at many schools, but nobody ever admits that they know any names. For the record, it never happened. Even now, in ordinary public places, all kinds of stuff goes on, hidden in plain sight. You just have to be an observant person to figure out the real story. Last year, I was with my husband (boyfriend, at the time) at a nice place with live music. We could both see the stage and another table that was kind of in front of us, but off a little to one side. This was at one of those venues where they stamp the back of your hand, so you can come and go as you please, without having to pay the cover charge again. I noticed that the girl at the other table left and came back twice, not with the same guy. I checked my watch the second time. She was gone about 20 minutes. I thought I had it figured out. The next time she got up, I excused myself and walked about 30 feet behind her. As I was entering the rest room, I saw her and another guy crossing the main lobby to the hotel tower elevators. I returned to our table and asked my guy, "What do you think of the hooker? Would you do her?" He said, "What hooker?" If you don't see this stuff going on all around you in ordinary places, it's because you aren't looking, or you don't know what to look for. Maybe one problem is that the fairy tale prince doesn't even remotely resemble any real person, as far as I know. Hot strippers and escorts do exist. A Disney cartoon prince looks like a gay actor pretending to be straight. Most guys marry dull partners too, which keeps a lot of prostitutes in business. Maybe we all need to be emulating role models that are more interesting and real.
I have a great deal of respect for people who are comfortable with themselves and their sexuality. While I have had only one partner, I feel as though having more wouldn't change who I am. Anyways, this thread sure became interesting recently! Carry on!
I asked, becasue I don't live in the US, and have never been involved in the culture that she was involved in. That's how you learn- by asking questions. You should try that sometime instead of making assumptions about people. You are assuming that I decide who to have sex with based only on their looks. This isn't accurate. I am far pickier about their personality, their attitude, and how they treat me than anything else. If a Brad Pitt look-alike were an asshole to me, I would walk away with no regrets. In fact, I would take pleasure in walking away, because one thing I absolutely can NOT stand in a man is arrogance or a sense of entitlement. I hope that answers your qustion.
of course people meet at parties and go have sex, and of course there's hookers out there. i'm talking about public group sex, s&m parties, etc. and even those things, i'm not saying they don't ever happen, just that being at college doesn't mean you're ever going to see it.
But it is surprising to me that you would have so many partners, yet never have any 1-nighters or sex on a first meeting. Just saying...
It probably comes from the culture the USA has, which highly values the individual and promotes tons of materialistic things, and social posturing. It's a huge problem in the foundation to our society and it affects way more than just the love-sex lives of people. My question to you is do you think that mentality is spreading to other developed nations in Europe and Australia? There are tons of cultural books and soap opera materialistic messages in those societies as well.
Are you kidding me? I think the urbanized parts of Europe have been way ahead of us on this, for decades. I don't know anything about Australia. Public group sex? I don't know that I'd use the word public to describe anything I saw. Probably the closest thing to it was at the parties when we had those back rooms unlocked. If you were wandering the dark halls, you might look in an open door and see a MFFM foursome. But you wouldn't expect to find a Bible study group, under the circumstances. Everybody back there was probably looking for their own empty room, like I was. There was just a little light in the hallway, so couples left the doors to the rooms open so it wouldn't be totally dark, and we wouldn't have to turn on those garish bright lights. The girl would usually just bend over and put her hands on the wall or a desk. Every time I saw a real gangbang going on, it wasn't at an event that just anybody could walk into. We were too paranoid for that. If there was two naked girls dancing together on top of a table surrounded by guys, you could bet your last dollar it was behind a locked door. I'd say at least 50% of my graduating class knew little or nothing about the campus hardcore sex scene. It might have been 70%. Of all the crazy shit my friends and I got into, probably the most talked-about was the Sunday morning showers in the men's dorms. We had to be careful about not doing that too often. You know, if a guy heads for the shower and meets a naked girl coming out, he's going to tell everybody he knows, even though half won't believe him. But after several hours of fucking a guy and his roommate, a girl really needs a shower before walking across campus. :ack2: If the random guy gets a soapy hand job in the shower, nobody will ever believe him. And then there are the rock stars and sports legends who claim to have fucked 10,000 women. How many of those girls have admitted it to anyone but their closest friends? Not many, I'd say. There's no way to get honest statistics on such things. I haven't had the rock star experience, but I know two girls who did. There were a lot of girls who went backstage after the concert. They all had to be fucked by a bunch of unfamous guys before they got to meet the big stars, and several of them didn't make the final cut. After hearing that story, I decided not to try it. But trust me, four years is enough time to pass 100. That's only 25 a year, a slow month for some frat boys and sorority sluts. When those people reach middle age, I understand why a lot of them don't tell all their old stories, but it really bugs me when they start talking trash about their former lifestyles. It's like they don't remember what it was like to be young, horny, and a little foolish. At every stage of life, people have reasons for what they do. Why not just respect that and move on? I call bullshit on some of those judgmental speeches. They're just trying to fit in with their middle-aged friends. You're making progress. :cheers2: You've been listening.
I can't help but get the sense that you think anyone (especially women) who reps a low number of partners is lying. Do you concede that some people just aren't that wild? I lost my virginity at 21 and did not have intercourse with another woman until I was 30. In the 3 years after I broke up with my 1st girlfriend I had 8 partners and for the last 17 years just my wife.