The Supreme Court's 5 to 4 Ruling, on birth control.

Discussion in 'Birth Control' started by monkjr, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Did you teach every class at every school you ever attended? Did you build from scratch the neighborhood where you grew up? Did you choose your parents?

    No, all these important things were given to you.
     
  2. dark suger

    dark suger Dripping With Sin!

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    How are you going to instill these things I these kids when they go to I par schools and have subpar teachers?

    It most assuredly would benefit everyone it would creat more working black people who will be spending their money and helping the economy. It benefits everyone when everyone else is working.

    It isn't a racist policy to deny it is racist.
     
  3. vance2335

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    That is not they type of "hand out" I am talking about.
     
  4. dark suger

    dark suger Dripping With Sin!

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    A hand out is a hand out is a hand out
     
  5. vance2335

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    School voucher program that Bush tried to do, which would allow parents to have a choice of schools. And I am all for having teachers be graded.

    What if 25% of those people hired by GM were unqualified? But they had to just to meet a quota?

    It is a racist policy to say that I have to hire someone based on skin color. And until we stop making issues about race and start looking at people as Americans only then we will have larger issues.

    If I have a choice of Dr's one white and one black to perform surgery I want the one who is more qualified no matter of skin color. Just should be all over America, most qualified person for the job. But all that needs to start with overhaul of family structure and education structure.
     
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    No because growing up and living under my parents roof is not a handout when I can't provide for myself because I am 5 years old. Getting schooling is not a handout because I am 7 years old.
     
  7. dark suger

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    It doesn't mean people who are unqualified will be just given jobs it means that they must have 25% of their qualified employees be black.

    If you are at a hospital where an unqualified doctor of any race is employed you are at a shitty hospital and should go some where else.

    It's an anti racist policy because without it many people will side with their own and not hire others
     
  8. dark suger

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    It is a handout when you have parents who provide for you and help you not everyone has this and it is a hand out when you go to a school that is in a community that is allotted more tax dollars for its student than another school.
     
  9. vance2335

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    No it is not a hand out to care for a child and give school to a child.
     
  10. scratcho

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    Blacks have been trying to catch up with the rest of us since the 1860s despite the continual racism, murders and general mayhem visited upon them. They did not start on an equal footing and have not achieved it yet. It's fine to say -"lets treat all americans the same--no special priveleges for anyone"--but it has never worked that way and still doesn't. The vast ghettoes in this country where it must be well nigh impossible to escape, are a testament to the lack of concern by ALL of us as to how much we really care.

    As far as anything the "supreme" court votes on nowadays--including the birth control issue----it's a republican/ conservative court, so what can anyone expect?
     
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  13. monkjr

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    I agree, but it's funny, because in the early 1900's, America thought very differently about child labor.

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    If anything is a handout, it's not to do with race in my opinion, it has to do with legal loopholes in the tax code that the rich can use but are economically barred from people with less assets and wealth.

    So like tax shelters, and the conversion of 1 type of assets into another type of assets to avoid taxes, requiring a principle of $1 million or more.

    Another one is how one can be born into wealth, (take the new British Prince for example), already his name has a certain economic value to it other infants don't have.


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    Also I do have to add that not all public schools are equal, but I have to also say I think No Child Left Behind Act was horribly a bad policy on the whole with very minor positives to it.

    But Dark Sugar has a point from a realist perspective that it does play into why certain minorities struggle more than others.


    But I also want to add that frankly, I think most young people are undisciplined to buckle down and hit the books regardless of race. It's more of a generational discipline mindset.
     
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    If I own and business I have the right to practice what beliefs I have. It is MY business.
    I am a liberal person, and I am all about women's rights, however, a business has the right t o say if they do not want to support birth control for their employees- DONT WORK THERE!
    We need to be concerned about having our rights taken away.
    I do not smoke- I do not like to smell smoke, but I do not support the government being able to forbid people to smoke!
     
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  16. NurseSteve

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    scratcho, on the issue of the SC, be afraid, be very afraid. If you think this court is conservative just wait until another regressive conservative is on the court. It might mean the end of representative democracy in this country.
     
  17. vance2335

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    Just how so? The SC is not there to make law it interprets it based on the Constitution.
     
  18. NurseSteve

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    The SC has become radicalized. The court is looking at social issues, not constitutional issues.
     
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    The court takes it's cases based on constitutional issues.
    If the court is so radical then what about it upholding the individula mandate for Obamacare? What about it's stance on gay marriage?
     
  20. TheGhost

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    It is if you are female and live in Pakistan.
     
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