The Ukraine Crisis Part 1 The initial Battles

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  1. Captain Scarlet

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    I think so as there is a good road nearby which is essential for them to get lorried troops, supplies and equipment towards the Ukrainian capital .

    I am expecting them to encircle the capital within about 12 hours from now
     
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    I'm stuck on internet. I'm currently working in Rome right now and a few employees have left my office to go watch the news updates at a local caffe!!
     
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    This is the latest on Chernobyl from Sky News

    I believe it to be true as its from a Ukrainian source and nothing to gain from denying it .


    Russia captures Chernobyl power plant, Ukrainian officials say
    Russian forces have captured the Chernobyl nuclear power plant after a fierce battle, an adviser to the Ukrainian presidential office has said.

    "It is impossible to say the Chernobyl nuclear power plant is safe after a totally pointless attack by the Russians," said Mykhailo Podolyak.

    "This is one of the most serious threats in Europe today."

    Ukraine's prime minister also said the Chernobyl area near Kyiv was now under the control of Russian troops.

    Chernobyl would be the shortest, most direct route to the capital Kyiv for Russian forces.
     
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    Not buying any of it. Lol
     
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    https://twitter.com/i/status/1496905910404460547

    A short Video showing the capture of Chernobyl .

    I can identify the tank as being a T72 . These are not used by the Ukrainians . The Infantry Fighting Vehicle in the middle is a BTR 80. The one on the far right is a BMP3 . Again not a type used by the Ukrainians ( they use BMP2s)
     
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    You seem to be informed on tanks and weapons.....
     
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    I am a wargamer and collect model armies . :)

    An area of interest is the Cold War.circa 1986 . These are far too modern for me :)
     
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    Unfortunately, military development has come a looooooooong way since '86 my friend. Was that the Irangate period ? It was in full Reaganism right ??
    I'm going to be the devil's advocate here...who said that the world is a better place after '89, after the fall of the most obnoxious wall ever built ? The greatest peace illusion in the history of mankind was created since '89.....thank you rotten Reagan for the "best of worlds" your fascist regime handed down to us.
     
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    Not for Soviet Build Tanks apart from the T14

    These are 2 of the main types that will be in conflict

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    The above is the main Ukrainian tank.. The T64 BV ,a Soviet design going back to the mid 60s and first went into service around 1976 . The opticals would have been brought more upto date but still the same old design .

    Below is the Russian T72B3 . Again a Soviet design going back to the mid 70s but updated . More than a match for the above due to updated optics and modern ammunition despite the tanks being similar looking

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    If the Ukrainians went toe to toe against the Russian tanks they will suffer dues to inferior equipment and ammo .
     
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    Missiles rain down around Ukraine
    And so it begins
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    President Putin launched what the Ukrainian government says is a "full-scale invasion" of the country. Ukraine has said Russian military vehicles have been entering the country from the north and the east.
    There have been explosions in the Ukraine's capital Kyiv, and reports of missile strikes in other cities.

    Ukraine conflict: Russian forces attack from three sides - BBC News
     
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    One also has to greatly sympathise with the civilian people

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    Civilians arming up to protect themselves from an oppressor wishing to expand his borders
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    (his Country to have breathing room - it seems to have been said before)

    One cannot blame the populas for the actions of a tyrant
    I recollection (somewhat aptly) a line/quote from the 1960's set film 'The Odessa file' - "Peoples are not evil, only individuals are evil" and it is the Head of the Russin state that should be held accountable for these atrocious actions
     
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    that tank has expensive reactive armor.
     
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    What is somewhat of a concern more than a Russian Bear, is the Chinese dragon watching (at this moment in time) - from the shadows.
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    What is China’s stand on the Russia-Ukraine conflict?

    Putin is somewhat predictable - Xi Jingping is astute, considered and resolute - with an infrastucture that is controlled with a strict code and/of discipline = Properly Powerful
     
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    The forgotten conflict no media has ever talked about.....ponder people ponder before striking out against "the enemy".....study your history first before issuing accusations....
    War in Donbas - Wikipedia
     
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    If I were NATO, I would think a million times before provoking China in any way :)
     
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