the reason why Unitarians encourage people to use scissors on their Bible is that some of the members own huge stakes in the Acme Scissor Corporation
now i get it --- these brits are _writing_ in tongues... or sumthin' ~ chief, i think you are here to stir things up... (& would you try to explain american sarcasm to arlia, please... i am very tired...) my dad loved unitarian jokes...
not complete sarcasm... the Bible written as it was, was so to make it a good fit with the pacification and unification needs of the Roman empire... later empires and nation states sought the same to fuel their own rule Unitarians saw through the bullshit and brought out the scissors unfortunately, the Unitarians also became corrupted as some heavily invested in the paper-cutting implement industries as they knew they would profit from them with the message coming out of the pulpit
UUs are the people who pray, "To whom it may concern.... Why can't UUs sing very well in choirs? Because they're always reading ahead to see if they agree with the next verse. "Gods Rest Ye, Unitarians" (UU Version) Gods rest ye, Unitarians, let nothing you dismay; Remember there's no evidence there was a Christmas Day; When Christ was born is just not known, no matter what they say, O, Tidings of reason and fact, reason and fact, Glad tidings of reason and fact. Our current Christmas Customs come from Persia and from Greece, >From solstice celebrations of the ancient Middle East. This whole darn Christmas spiel is just another pagan feast, O, Tidings of reason and fact, reason and fact, Glad tidings of reason and fact. There was no star of Bethlehem, there was no angels' song; There could not have been wise men for the trip would take too long. The stories in the Bible are historically wrong, O, Tidings of reason and fact, reason and fact, Glad tidings of reason and fact!
The copy machine broke down at the Unitarian Universalist church -- a disaster of biblical proportions! Because it was Sunday, no repair person could be called until the next day, and they desparately needed more copies of the morning hymn. After fluttering around the machine in distress for some time, a member more mechanically inclined than the rest found the problem. "It's just out of paper. The flashing box said right there 'Replace Paper in Tray 2.' Sheesh, can't anyone here follow directions?" Another member retorted, "If we were the kind of people who followed directions we wouldn't be Unitarian Universalists!"
not nesaserily,the way i guess we can see that sum1 has excepted christ is if we can see god living in them,wen sum1 has god in theyre life,theyre life begins to change,they begin to live a different way.u dont receive the gift of tounges right at the moment u are saved...well maybe some ppl do,but for alot of ppl i know it came quite a while after wen they had learnt of god,adn had spiritualy grown
Nice thread, but Im scared to post because of the way some of you spell. It is not that hard to spell check, and not sound like a 2nd grader!!! Peace
sorry i knwo that were probably aimed at me!?!?! im terrible at spelling i admit it. but wen i tipe i jsut keep on tiping
"if we can see god living in them" & if i can see the spirit shining so brightly through someone that being in a room with them, or hearing them speak, or getting a hug from them, is enough to light up your life... and they have NOT accepted jesus christ as their personal saviour (& the only true ticket to paradise)... am i being decieved by satan? are THEY being decieved ?
I don't know if anyone said this or not b/c this thread is very long, but to be a unitarian is not a religion, unitarians come from all different religions and belief systems. Some of them are christians.
yes, spirit shining brightly... humans filled with the spirit: mother theresa albert schweitzer swami vivekenanda albert einstein pir vilayat inayat khan suzuki roshi ram dass stephen & ina may gaskin jerry garcia (on a good night ) joseph campbell the dalai lama carl sagan stephen durkee nelson mandela mahatma mohandas gandhi gary snyder huston smith qanah parker only a few on this very short list would qualify in any way as "christian" and yet, and yet --- i would maintain that every one of them manifested a spirit that i would have to call "holy"... the great spirit shows itself in many guises... (my father's house has many mansions...) ymmv...
far be it for me to attempt to read 6 pages, considering the last page, but upon most christians conceeding that the old testament of the bible is from the torah (jewish bible), they have declared that they are still different to Jews on fundamental matters because when making the christian bible they 'cut out the bits that were wrong and contradictory' etc. So really, what more ammo do you have against unitarians? You did the same, through your own admittance and simple fact... (I truly doubt that the old testament was cut up and changed by the initial christians, but there are books and books of commentary/explantaions which were completely ignored when the old testament was written up, so my case still stands)
*Sigh* Now that Chief Cowpie has had his fun, let someone who was raised a Unitarian Universalist clarify things. Unitarianism is a very liberal religion. We are not judgmental, and the last thing we would do is take scissors to a bible, as that would imply censorship. The joke about burning a question mark is a reference to the Unitarian philosophy of questioning things. We question a bible that says the world was created in 6 days when there's so much evidence supporting the theory of evolution. We question whether Jesus was the son of God, or even if there is a God. At the same time we realize there's a lot of wisdom in the bible and that the teachings of Jesus and others are very profound. We also study the other religions. While adults attend church services, children below high school age attend informal sunday school classes which discuss the teachings of different religions. In my last year of sunday school we even attended services at different churches and discussed the differences between one denomination and another. Basically they wanted us to know what our options are so we could make an informed choice, whether we stayed with the Unitarian church, chose a different one or disassociated ourselves with any religion altogether. Some people say the Unitarian church is not a real religion but more of a social organization or a support group for people with little faith. I would say the Unitarian church does profess faith, but not just in God but in many things, especially faith in yourself. We draw inspiration from the bible but from other sources as well. We don't deny the existence of God but we don't believe in blind faith. BTW, while the Unitarian Universalist Association has churches throughout the country, it's heaviest concentration is in the Northeastern US where I grew up. I don't know how prevalent it is worldwide.