the world is a beautiful place

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  1. babyjay

    babyjay Senior Member

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    that's a really interesting concept, about oxygen being a pollutant. but i don't think it can be considered a pollutant, since that apparently was a part of a process in which to develop plants, animals, etc. plants use oxygen, animals eat plants, animals eat animals, and the rest of the food chain.

    nature, as i'm thinking of it... is something non-detrimental to the environment. most genetic advancements within science are purely helpful, like hybrid cannabis, as well as every other type of plant or animal that is genetically altered.

    but what about pesticides? fossil fuels? things like that, that literally pollute the world. is this part of a further process, to turn the world into something else? will other creatures develop that use our pollutants as their own form of oxygen? o_O

    i'm confused by 'other worlds'.
    like planets? or what?

    thanks... i like your point of view too :D

    but isn't that the difference between humans and animals? we have the ability to simply feel the same emotions they do, but we also can put words to it. isn't it just a different form of communication?

    it makes sense, haha.
    i'm envisioning 'wrecked' as an idea of ruining our current state of living.
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Could be, or parallel worlds, or other dimensions, or the glimpses you might see of them when you alter your mind, or the afterlife, or the past, or the future, or just fictional worlds. :cool::D
     
  3. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    The environment is composed of elements in motion. Whether an environment is suitable to a particular life form is another question. There is nothing that we do to "environment". No matter what happens the environment is still elements in motion. "Pollution" of the environment is a localized and temporary condition that happens when the waste products of consumption outstrip the pace at which these substances can be recycled into the environment. Pollution is conspicuous consumption and disproportionate consideration. The earth maintains integrity through dispersion and diversity, even handedness.





    Our current state of living is and always will be a series of sensations of varying intensity, some of which we call pleasant and some not so.
     
  4. babyjay

    babyjay Senior Member

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    just yesterday i was thinking about the idea of time-travel, and parallel dimensions...
    time travel was explained to me yesterday like this:
    time moves around YOU, not you moving in time. you remain in the exact same place in space, while time changes around you. this causes problems though, because if you time travel to say, dino times, then the earth will be different. There might be a hill where you were standing in current times, but back then, maybe a dinosaur was standing there. So you would travel to the exact same spot at the dinosaur, and you would probably die if you were inside a dinosaur.

    any thoughts on that? i find it VERY interesting.

    your post is very interesting to me... and very deep. i really like your view on this.
    its something i never entirely thought about myself.
     
  5. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I like baby birds.
     
  6. babyjay

    babyjay Senior Member

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    haha i'm not a baby anymore... now i'm 18! Woot :)
     
  7. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I have a hard time believing someone actually going back in time but it's fun to imagine the possibility. I don't really know how to picture myself in time. I guess it's just nothing except the moment we're experiencing.
    The things left from the past like light from the sun (a few hours ago) and the stars (from years ago) and of course all things we did in past moments that have existed until this moment, as well as the stuff from our ancestors (buildings, roads, etc. etc. and far out stuff like books) which give us all more insight in past times do not exist in any other way anymore. That we are aware of very different societies and environments before us only by looking to the leftovers and the books that have been preserved to learn from and form our current moments and future is already a trippy idea for me. Also, imagine past societies like in the dark ages or prehistoric ages when they didn't know half of these stuff (or did some? :cool::D). Really gives you an immensly different outlook on life I think. Trippy shit :biggrin:
     
  8. babyjay

    babyjay Senior Member

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    this made me think of how time travel COULD be possible, in a way.
    like, i wonder if it would be possible to project the past, like stars project light, years later?
    does that make sense o_O
     
  9. mithra

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    I like the idea re body language; there is so much about this that humans have forgotten as we can absorb some of other peoples gestures in conversation only to miss a whole lot more, particularly the important ability to discern between truth and lies.

    Most dinos apparently were veggie so you should be quite safe, although a good strong pair of legs might come in useful! :D
     
  10. gorilla warfare

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    that wouldn't really be time travel, that would just be very fast movement over a very long time. but maybe that's what time travel might be?
     
  11. WanderingturnupII

    WanderingturnupII Grouchy Old Fart

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    What about the tsunami that messed up the Indian Ocean a few years ago? Maybe you think ridding the planet of a few thousand humans was no great loss, but what about all the non human plants & critters &c that were killed? Volcanic eruptions, meteor impacts, storms, can all mess up somebody's environment. How does breeding hybrid plants that produce no viable seed helpful to the plant? Cannabis has insured its survival the same way dogs & corn have, by being useful to humans, but how well would a Sour Diesel plant survive in the wild? (I certainly hope some seed bank somewhere is preserving heritage pot seeds!)The gamma male in that dolphin pod might well feel that his environment would improve if alpha & beta ended up in a Starkist can. All depends on your perspective



    I were a English major, but from what I remember from my science classes, "One man gathers what another man spills" does seem to be some kind of law of biology. I know there are bacteria that live on sulfur dioxide...'course, they're anaerobes...can't tolerate free oxygen (right, porkstock?)

    I hope you get to take some college level philosophy courses. You will have a blast.

    This doesn't make as much sense as it should. I've been up since 5, mostly taking care of babies. My thinker's not exactly functioning at its best.
     

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