The World Isn't Going To End, But It Is Going To Change

Discussion in 'The Future' started by Burn, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Natural

    Sophisticated indifference?

    You speak of ataraxy
    Occams philosophy.

    Occam
     
  2. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    'Mind' controls the 'body'.
    'Mind' goes, 'body' goes.
    Harmony even in dissonance.







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  3. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    David

    Body results in mind.
    Without your cerebral cortex. There is no natural23.

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  4. environmental_junkie

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    no, results will only previal if your quest is thought both in the mind and body. Conqure your quest of knownledge other then sitting her discussing. Impossible?.. only for now
     
  5. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    Occam,


    If mind is not body then what is it ?

    Peace,

    David


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  6. Burn

    Burn Member

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    Embrace all facets of your being, both physical and mental, as a whole. What happens then to the consciousness?
     
  7. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    Junkie,

    In my view, and, I beleive in truth, you are correct but a trip begins with the first steps; no matter how important the trip. And, in my view, this is an important trip. Sometimes we see simple things that do not appear significant but really are, and these things can be profound. I hope to use, and am utilizing, my spirit, insight and knowledge to bring about good change in our world. And how I go about this is unusual, you, as I see it, see great capability in particular people, and probably in all people, and you are asking for these folks to go ahead, do not hesitate, and manifest it; a tree takes awhile to grow.

    With Love and Appreciation,

    David


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  8. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    David

    Occam believes in truth also.

    A pebble on the beach holds more 'information' than all the libraries of humanity.
    This is truth. And all humans could realise this,
    they do not. and will not.

    Humanity will admit anything buts it's own ignorance.
    Thus agnosticism is ACTUALLY DEBATED.

    How silly

    Occam
     
  9. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    Yes Occam, interesting points. And from my view: A pebble holds the same amount of information or more information or less information as all the libraries of humanity, depending on how the detail of the question is posed; "same" or "less" being the best absolute candidates, however I am not only reading text in those libraries. And all humans could realise this, but they do not. Humanity, the collective, will admit anything but it's own ignorance and the unknowing debate as to whether acknowledgement of not knowing is valid; how silly, how perfect. And now a koan: such is a result of not knowing and knowing that one does not know, even when one seems to know, is significant knowledge. Peace, David.




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  10. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    David.

    On noticing a tray of 'organic chocolate' in a supermart.
    Occam asked if they had any inorganic chocolate.
    And could he please have some.
    It was very important. Needed some for a girlfriend.
    People are SO trusting.. occam felt bad at that point.
    But determined.
    It took them 20 miutes to decide that no such product existed.

    That is the current state of humanity.

    Occam
     
  11. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    Occam,

    Wonderfully put.
    You have the basis for finding truth.

    I have always hoped to purchase a 'replicator'
    and I have asked for this at my local kitchen supply house
    but they just give me this funny look [jjk] .

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    It would be good
    if more folks understood
    that this means a product formed by basic ingredients that are obtained from 'organic' farms
    and it would be good if more folks understood
    that there are lots of organic materials that can do great harm,
    but clearly ''organic' farming methods' are, overall, better for the environment
    and most often produce a better product than 'non-organic' methods.
    To some it just means "good stuff."

    By travelling the path that educates, and brings realization,
    about preconcieved notions,
    by learning of the truths of the self
    in great part by way of humility;
    by evolving, holding view of, and by utilization of, the internal langauges:

    As the poet translates awarenesses,
    learn to translate the cultivated 'internal' langauges
    in order to share with, and to advance, humanity;
    and especially by teaching of the existence of this aforementioned potential
    by the 'vehicle' of captivating manifestion, or products, of these translations.
    And as science more consciously draws related key elements from art
    there will be those who will resist, those who will 'thrash about,'
    in order to try to maintain material and psychological control
    but this will not work
    because, from my sense of it, it will begin to manifest
    on such a wide-spread scale
    that it will be necessary to make significant changes
    in how human beings relate to, and interact, with one another
    and this is something that will happen 'naturally.'
    There will be many 'trial runs' first,
    possibly with significant damage,
    and it will appear as if will not work
    but it will work.
    Although from isolated considerations it may not appear so,
    the world of human interaction
    is really held together by mutual-trust that forms agreement.
    It will become apparent
    that 'integrity' in a threshold volume of human interaction is necessary.
    These words speak to, and from, the 'heart.'



    David




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  12. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    David

    Organic, means natural. No more, no less.
    Grown with the "least" impact from human technology.
    A tomato grown in 4000bc is an organic tomato.
    Totally.

    Occam SCREAMS at the mindlessness of humans who sell a natural tomato as organic.
    Organic means...Pre-technological.
    We sell tomatoes in a high tech society with the lable that thet ARE NOT a product of technology or 'infected' by such technology.
    Yet we enjoy and promote such technology.

    The person who boasts of his 200cm television, a product of pure technology.
    Also boasts of eating tomatoes not 'infected' by that same technology.

    Yet occam in deciphering his knowledge base. Can undestand the position.
    It is no more incomprehensable than nazism.

    Maybe occam simply needs a shoulder to cry on.

    Occam
     
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    occam why do you have dumb ways of writing things?
     
  14. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    Occam,


    Thank You.

    Since I was a young child I have dreamt of technology in harmony with nature.
    In a world where technocrats, monsters and robotic followers rape 'the land'
    it is most often difficult for those anguished by insight into this to remain clear;
    we, humans, are still in and of nature, no matter the dissonance.
    Hold on firmly and peacefully and don't let go,
    acknowledge reality, remain paced and teach by example;
    'Mother Earth,' 'Father Sun' and "the 'other energies'" are busy healing; more to come.


    Peace,

    David


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