THERE IS NO "GOD", Ok?

Chillaxin...

If you are referring to a dying individual's subjective experience and emotions as proof for the existence of an objective "God", then you will have to provide for me the evidence as to why I should accept subjective experiences as proof for the objective. Because no philosopher of logic has been able to do it thus far.

Although, I respect your position and the experiences you dealt with, it is more likely that due to preconceived notions based on one's religious beliefs, their background, and their conditioning as a child combined with the dying brain and medication that the experiences (although meaningful) of the patient are subjective and exclusive--in other words--in their mind only.

However, if you have evidence to the contrary, I'd be very open to it. I have also sat beside people who've died--although not as many as you, probably.

 

The way I represent Jesus, is simply to speak His truth. When you get away from religion, and focus on the words of Christ, you will understand that Christ is not calling us to be at harmony with the world, but to be at harmony with Him only. Jesus said that all who live Godly in Christ Jesus, will suffer persecution.
Jesus was put to death along with most of His followers because they did not compromise the truth for world peace and harmony. They did not try to fit into other world religions, agreeing to disagree. They died for the truth, they believed the truth, they stood for something. Their faith was based on more then empty and vain religion. Anyone who does the will of God will spend their life agreeing with His truth. True Christians, donot spend their years explaining God's truth away. True love never turns away from God's truth. And those who sacrifice His truth for peace, and harmony, will only bring about the false appearence of peace . Without His truth, all these outward appearences will evaporate. The Bible tells you that a coalition of nations will attack Israel at the time of the end. Iran which use to be called Persia, is but one of the nations that will come against her. Even now the leader of Iran states that Israel should be wiped from the face of the earth. As we speak, Iran is working on nuclear weapons, soon, more nations that are hostile to America and Israel will have them. The Bible has warned what are future will be. Don't be like the Jews, who missed their day of visatation, becaused they ignored the prophecies. This great war that has been predicted by the Bible will surley come to pass. All the harmony of false religions will not bring the peace that so many desire. Gods prophecies are true, and all who love Christ will see His mighty power in the days to come. And those who imbrace religions of harmony, which ignore Gods Word, will find they offer little protection, and are a poor substitute for the living God. Jesus Christ, will save His people from the day of darkness that will fall on this world.

 

and the most important words Jesus spoke was to love God and love your neighbours, you may have missed the last one- LOVE, not persecute the same way you see them doing to you. we should love all humans- not just other christians and not jsut Jesus, love your neigbours, do not shout out them for disagreeing, do not get mad when they do not see what you are saying, focus less on prophecy dude, and more on the spreading of love, you may have the knowledge, but on this forum you do not spread the love

 

I mean, im sorry but i feel youre just wrong. The Golden rule is to love our neighbor as ourselves, this is what Jesus taught, and that is the will of God, that we love each other. Not that we praise Jesus' name above all else, even if it means disrespecting and correcting others who do not praise him. That isnt love. That is fear, that is praising Jesus JUST because God says so. Love is about caring for one another, having compassion for each other.

 

A long time ago I saw a van flip over and catch on fire. Now I could of walked over slowly and calmly, and tried with my loving voice to tell the driver he should consider leaving his van, because if he doesent, it would not be good for him to stay there. Especially when there was already a fire burning by the engine block. Yet I dont think I would of conveyed that unless he got out then and there, he was going to burn to death. Now my approch may have been kind, but the end result would of done little for him. What i did do, was smash out his side window with my foot, and drag him out by his coat. When lives are in the balance, and time is running out, people like me tend to react, especially when they see danger that most are oblivious to. It's because u know little about Bible prophecy, you can take such an easy approach. True love, does not let the world go to hell in a hand basket. And time is running out.

 

The greatest commandment is that you love the Lord your God above all things.
The Bible clearly teaches that in the end, men would love the creation more than the Creator. Jesus said if you are ashamed of me before men, I will be ashamed of you before my Father. Just because God says so? WOW.

 

i do see where you are coming from, and yes i know little about prophecy to the detail in which you do, i just think that maybe your method may not attract that many people to think that 'huh christians seem to be happy and fun', i just think we should lead by example, not put people off. if we act angry and pissed off, then why would an unbeliever want to believe in a God to become that. however i do admire your courage and determination over the issue
peacex

 

Thats youre main problem. Time ISNT running out. The kingdom of God is here and now, and it is love. And youre confused on the definition of love. Love is not talking in a mild positive voice all the time, you saving somebody from a burning van regaurdless of how you go about it is love. But what you preach is not love, it is commanding people to repent, accept that they are worthless under God, accept that they need saving and the end is near. That is so far off from Jesus' message its almost laughable.

 

So when Jesus tells you that if you love your mother or your father more than Him you are not worthy of Him, you consider His statement in Matthew 10:37 laughable. What you are preaching, is we come first, and God comes second. And that would be laughable if it were not so sad. The Kingdom of God is for those who repent, and invite Christ into their life. Most will not, and the Bible tells you this. Yet this clear teaching you ignore. And the whole point of the Bible is that the world needs to repent, and that is why Jesus tells us, that unless a man is Born Again, he will not enter into the Kingdom of heaven. This is why Jesus tells us, He must go away to prepare a place for us, so where He goes we me be there also. Jesus has told us that whosever loves Him will keep His word, and that His Father will love thoses who love Jesus, and they will both dwell with those who do. You don't love Christ by ignoring His truth, by telling people we don't need to repent, when Jesus tells us we do. You donot love God by telling people time is not running out, when Christ states it is. The only way you can believe what you believe is to simply ignore the Words of Christ that don't fit your world view, and you pick and choose what makes you feel good. If the Bible tells you that most will burn in Hell, you just ignore that scripture. If the Bible tells you that their will be a battle between God and Satan at the time of the end, you ignore that scripture. If the Bible tells you that a sign of Christ return will be the return of the Jews to Israel, you ignore that scripture. If the Bible tells you that there is a Hell, you ignore that scripture. Your whole belief is based on ignoring scripture. I accept what is written and believe it. You have created your own belief based on a humanistic formula which mixes a number religious beliefs, while at the same time ignoreing many of God's written Words. What you are saying, is their are many roads that will lead one to truth, yet the Bible tells us that most roads will lead to Hell. And the Bible tells us, that narrow is the way that leads to life eternal, and few their be that find it. The Bible tells you most are going to Hell, I believe the Bible. If you can't believe what the Bible simply states, what can you believe, and what do you base your belief on?

 

Im not going to believe all of the bible, its just silly. How can you believe such aconvoluted, messy work - so many scriptures left out that we know of, how many do we not know of? Which ones that are included are even valid? Its just silly to accept the bible, as it is now, as complete truth. I believe my heart, in my heart i know that love is what matters, and when love we are spreading the kingdom of god upon the earth. Jesus said the kingdom of GOd is here but we dont see it, it is because it is up to us to spread Gods love. If caring for others and wishing love and kindness upon the world is contrary to your belief system, than i want nothing to do with your beliefs.

 

You are spreading the Kingdom of God. Where did you get that from. If you are going to pick and choose verses out of the Bible, why believe any of it? God says mans heart is desperately wicked, well thats another one you can ignore. Jesus tells us our best works are but filthy rags before Him, thats another one you can ignore. Your belief is based only on your imagination, and void of scripture except the ones that agree with your whims. Caring for the world requires speaking Gods truth, and that is a truth found only in His Book. And that is a Book you donot believe in. So please donot even try to talk about spreading the Kingdom of God, you don't even know what that Kingdom is, because you donot believe in the Book that describes it.

 

"Jesus said: If those who lead you say to you: See, the kingdom is in heaven, then the birds of the heaven will go before you; if they say to you: It is in the sea, then the fish will go before you. But the kingdom is within you, and it is outside of you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will know that you are the sons of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty, and you are poverty."
I tend to trust the parts of the bible that i know to be true to me. The rest seems to be religious dogma that is really of no use to me. I could be mistaken, but thus far in my life everything seems to be a lot more peaceful when i respect others and look on the bright side of life. unless you provide me with adamn good reason to the contrary (except going to hell ) i probably wont ever understand where youre coming from.

 

Jesus stated that if you live for him this world will hate you. I would say if you dont live for him you will be at peace with the world. Telling people the truth about the Bible, doesen't mean you disrespect others. The Kingdom of God is in those who invite Christ into their life, yet the Kingdom of heaven is a seperate place. The Bible clearly states that Gods Temple will decend from out of heaven at the end of time. That is why Jesus said he GOES to prepare a place for those who love Him. You can pick and choose parts of the Bible, yet by doing so, you have created your own dogma, and it is this kind of approach to the Bible that got the Jews in trouble. For they did not believe certain parts either. And when Christ showed up they missied their time. The prophecies written by the Jews that speak of themselves as an unclean woman, hardly appears to have anything to do with religious dogma. If it did, they would of written how great they are in the eyes of God. Yet we read just the oppsite. And the writing clearly states that in the latter days God would return the Jews back to the land of Israel, and not for the Jews sake, because they polluted Gods name where ever they wandered. But He would do this for His name sake. If this were nothing more than religious dogma, the Jews never would of spoken of themselves in such disrespectful ways. The Bible saying that God compared the Jews to an unclean woman is about as far from dogma as one could get.

 

jesus is not real

 

Jesus was real. I think what you want to argue is his divinity.

 

So, is Satan real?

 

no

 

Was satan ever a real person? Like I said I think Tool was wanting to argue Jesus' Divinity not the actual perosn.

 

Satin sheets aren't.

 

Ah.