There is no such thing as 'GBLT Community'

Its refering to a run-in I had with some teenagers.
Kris is a little sensitive about it because it involved some retarded kids - whom I was really sticking up for btw.

 

Retarded as in handicapped, or retarded as in just idiots? Because legally you're not required to stand up for the latter.

 

Care to elaborate?

 

Erasmus why do you give a flying fuck? All you're doing is getting people pissed off, there's absolutely no need for any of this.

 

I'm not pissed off, but I do find his uneducated generalizations to be a bit silly. Not that I'm trying to insult the guy, but his definitions of trans people were rather uninformed... For one thing, he didn't even mention crossdressers (who happen to fall under the umbrella term of 'transgender').

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that there is a GLBTI community; they just happen to be a smaller group of humanity that stick together based upon certain traits. Which, in itself, is rather odd; but, in some parts, it's the only community some people have.

 

I try not to use those words is all *shurgs*

 

There is a GLBTQ community if you're looking for it. If you're looking to prove that there is no united GLBTQ community, you can probably prove it. But likewise, if you're looking for a group of people to share experiences with, to talk to, for support, there is most definitely a GLBTQ community, and saying that there isn't just says that you're not looking hard enough/haven't tried.

It's not like the Christian community or Jewish community or anything like that... it's not a fucking religion. It's a life choice. Hell, there's a community for anything. There are communities for people who have certain jobs, certain diseases, certain disorders, certain interests, and somewhere in there, sexual orientation fits in. You just have to look for it. You can't just be like, "Oh, the GLBT community doesn't have a number in the phone book, it must not exist."

 

Errmm.. uhh.. for your information my uneducated friend, you seem to be forgetting a little something called 'Intersexed' which obviously you dont even know anything about ahem ahem..

Its GLBTQI community and perhaps you should become educated and informed like I so obviously am, because I say so and act like it for no reason ahem ahem.

Signed,
PhoxPhire MD, CGA, BA

 

Do you actually have anything to add to this matter on your own behalf?

 

The point of the initial article isn't that those communities don't exist. It's saying that LGBTs (fuck all that LGBTIQOARSE crap, let's just pretend for a moment that we all know who we're talking about and skip the semantic quibbles that seem destined to undermine liberalism at every turn) don't have many common interests, life experiences etc., so there's no reason for the LGBT community to exist. If I'm reading it right, that is. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I can at least see where it's coming from.

I totally agree that, for those that use them, LGBT groups serve the same function as religion, support groups, etc. But a lot of LGBTs never go anywhere near them (personally I only go there for free food and contraception), which would imply either that most gays aren't aware of them, or that they are but don't see them as having value to them.

I do think it's a lot to do with not wanting to be defined by your sexuality.

 

I'm not trying to nit pick or cause anything but.

Is it GBLT? BGLTI? LGBT? LGBTI.....I'm serious I've seen so many diffrent ways. Is it a personal thing or is all the same just diffrent ways to order the letters?

 

Not yet.. Im still considering all the comments and suggestions.
You can be sure I will add something at some point though.

 

I've always seen it as LGB or LGBT, simply because it rolls off the tongue better (no jokes). It wouldn't surprise me if there's all manner of bickering about whether G or L should be placed first, because that's what we're good at. For example:

The gay club in Scarborough was called Denial, and when you joined they gave you a keyring shaped like a lowercase D, but also as an amalgamation of the male and female symbols. Originally, the male arrow was at the top, and the female crossbar at the bottom, but some lesbians got really annoyed about that and accused it of being misogynistic, so they had to change it. So now the male arrow points downwards even though it points up and to the right on the actual symbol, and the crossbar is on the top, even though it's on the bottom on the actual symbol, thus rendering a good idea lame and needlessly divorced from its original meaning.

True story.

 

Thanks for the reply SelfControl

 

Haha, the signature made by me is the icing on the cake. You make a horrible smartass... I never implied that I was vastly educated in comparison to you, however I did get the impression that you were ignorant to certain key issues in your very own arguement; which I found to be rather ludicrous. I'd like to think that I know at least a decent amount about GLBTI issues, but I certainly do not claim to know EVERYTHING.

 

Is there any particular reason you're acting like an ass, or do you just enjoy it?

 

Neither did I.

Because I did not include 'Intersex'.
wow.

Thats really ludicrous.
You left out the Q.
In fact, you dont even have a clue how to even approach this and your bizarre 'contribution' was uncalled for and missing the point on so many levels it might be the dictionary definition of 'Ludicrous' if there was ever and example.

I realise you dont even grasp the concept - never mind knowing anything about this.
I think your pride has trumped you again though.
Thnx

 

I'm quite aware of that, thanks.

...and failed to recognize the possibility of trans people being attracted to people of the same gender; thus providing a counterpoint to your claim that trans people share nothing in common with either gay or lesbian people...

Actually, my contribution was spot on in disproving your claim that GLBTI people don't have all that much in common and thus are not truly a community. It would seem as though you are the one who really missed the point.

Wait, why am I even bothering to argue with you? Oh yeah, because it's fun to watch people try and stir a reaction out of me...

 

You weren't but ok.

Your such a knob. 'Failed to recognise'
Idiot.

So lets get this straight.. I 'failed to recognise' (idiot) that a tranny might also be a gay tranny.
So
"Therefore'
You feel you were 'spot on'.
wow.
Your a genius!
Idiot.

It would be like trying to stir a reaction out of a 8th grader on the topic of abortion or something like existentialism.
Like you, they are arguing 'under' the points. You dont even realise how idiotic it is to write: 'Failed to recognise' after your wonderful discovery that some tranny might ALSO be a gay or lesbian.
Wow.
Now the whole point I made has been totally trumped!
Wow.
How dumbed down can this get.

 

I think if this thread so far has proved anything it's that members of the LGBTIOGFKBJ community don't have that much in common. Much as it pains me to do so, I'm kind of with Erasmus on this. I'd never heard the term Intersexual before you raised it, and so far you've not really shed much light on what it means and what aspects it aren't covered by L, G, B and T. Seems like you're just being argumentative for the sake of it.

Do you think gays, lesbians, transexuals, bisexuals and any combination of those have anything in common other than a minority sexual preference?