They Found Jesus' Body!!!

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by skip, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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  2. Posthumous

    Posthumous Resident Smartass

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    Sorry but Satire is protected free speech according to the US Supreme Court. Just ask your incestuous pal Pat Robertson about that.

    BTW I didn't agree with you being kicked out of the Buddhist forum. If you want to make a fool out of yourself preaching unenlightened ideology to enlightened individuals, be my guest. All the funnier.

    And congratulations to you for finally learning how to spell intolerant. Here's to your continuing education. Cheers.
     
  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Yeah, right! Letsee, there were the Crusades, then the Inquisitions, kick the Jews & Muslims out of Spain & France, then here in the good ol' USA, we got Segregation, the KKK, lynchings, attacks on abortion clinics & doctors. And NOW we got preachers ALL OVER the country telling people GAYS are an abomination...

    ALL BY SUCH TOLERANT CHRISTIANS!

    What planet are YOU livin' on?

    How can you Xtians be so IGNORANT of your own INTOLERANCE?

    Yup, absolutely NOTHING HAS BEEN LEARNED, NOTHING HAS CHANGED in 2000 years for you XTIANS.

    And you wonder why ppl heap scorn on you!

    In fact, Mr. Campbell, I do believe you are just trolling here with your outright lies about Xtianity aimed at provoking our members.

    If you want to discuss Xtianity maybe you should stick to the HISTORICAL TRUTHS and not the lies in your book & those your preachers spread.

    I'll bet Jesus is rolling over in his grave over that one...
     
  4. ChiefCowpie

    ChiefCowpie hugs and bugs

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    skip, could you live with your wife, mother, brothers, sisters, children and possibly father (they could not decipher all the names on the tombs)???... i will continue to call him "the messiah",... "christ"... "superstar"
     
  5. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    I'm an Agnostic/Satanist, and I'm very "intolerant." LOL
     
  6. SILVERWOLF_87

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    You forgot about Manifest Destiny.
     
  7. campbell34

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    Well nothing new here, you have two Jewish boys who are saying Christ has not risen, and it is now coming to light that the real bulhonky is the story these two are telling. And it appears their main goal is to make money from the film they are now pushing.
     
  8. Posthumous

    Posthumous Resident Smartass

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    What's wrong with a couple nonchristians making a few bucks off that Jesus dude for a change?
     
  9. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Where did you get an early copy of the Weekly World News? Was it them or some other paper that published Jesus' photograph a few years back? (Are they going to bury him on the far side of the moon, next to the house where JFK and Marilyn live? (You learn so much waiting in line at the grocery store.))
     
  10. campbell34

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    Well at least my unenlightened ideology has substance to it, and your enlightened individuals seem to only be able to use Nazis strong arm tactics in the place of reason and open discussion. Thanks for your support.
     
  11. campbell34

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    The problem is, there are a lot of people doing a lot of things in the name of Christ. Yet it should be obvious to anyone who knows Christ, that what they have done has nothing to do with what Christ taught. Jesus said that there would be many who worshiped Him with their lips but their hearts are far from Him.

    And I think you need to understand that another HISTORICAL TRUTH is that people who murder in the name of Christ are not Christians. Because Jesus said it Himself, no murder will enter the kingdom of God.
     
  12. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    Whats the view like from up their on your high horse? You have just proven yourself to be the BESTEST CHRISTIAN EVER!!!! In heaven they are hanging streamers for the party they are going to throw for you... I bet Joan of Arc will even jump out of your cake! Congrats!
     
  13. campbell34

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    I wish I could tell you what the view was like, but you will have to talked to the enlightened one, Bhikkhu Pannadharo. He just ran over me with his tank. So wonder the nazis liked those guys.
     
  14. Ikdenkhetniet

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    Since these are free speech forums Im going to take the opportunity to say I was highly disturbed to see the owner/operator essentially make nothing short of a flame-baiting topic, literally mocking and scorning and later posting personal insults... and then 'warning' a member who has done nothing but post nothing more than a Christian viewpoint.
    Amazing.
    Finding out he was censored from another forum is even more disturbing.

    Honestly Skip, putting aside your hateful opinion of Christians (seriously) you really want to consider this issue of free speech and if anyone would be defending Campbells right to think and write - it should be you!

    But lets get back on topic here and I am defiantely very interested in this 'Jesus Tomb' business.
    Im fascinated with the broader story behind the choice, timing and social implications in this.
    Really.

    As normal moderate Christians know all too well.. every Easter is preceded by what is the annual 'AntiChrist' period in the Media.
    Newsweek, Discovery Channel, A@E, CNN will all come out with articles and 'discoveries' which are usually 'back masked' as:
    The 'Historical' Jesus.
    or
    The 'Real' Jesus.
    or,
    'Jesus investigated' and on and on.
    The idea here is that to create an idea that the Christless Jesus is a 'real one' and there is a 'unreal Jesus' who is made up as a Christ.

    As always, the articles will be absolutely chock-full of:
    "Scholars agree"
    "Scholars now believe"
    "According to scholars..."

    Now this is pretty much as much 'deception' as you could ask for outside a Micheal Moore film.
    The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of Christian Scholars are... well... Christians.
    Now,
    You can simply go out to the fringes on either side.
    With 10s of thousands of Christian Scholars I guarantee you I can find you 50 that are 'higher critics' and well over to the 'liberal' thinking.
    Usually found in secular liberal Universities and they make a good living being a sort of 'Safe Christianity' to sell in Chapters (bookstore chains).

    The 'key' here is that you 'pad' your documentary with 5-6 of these far-left types... BUT... be sure you find the most 'reasonable sounding' ones.
    Ok.
    Now go farrrrr to the other spectrum and get an unreasonable 'fundie' or 'televangelisty' type for them to look even better off of.

    See how it works yet?
    Because it works perfectly over and over. Our unwitting viewers always fall for this.
    They walk away saying "hehe.. i know about this and they have pretty much agreed it was *insert christians were wrong item* and the experts agreed ... well except the fundies"

    Okee dokey,
    The Jesus family tomb.

    Simcha is brilliant and he made a sensational film called 'Hollywoodism: History of the Jews".
    It was highly controversial when it was made and believe me it made a lot of people very uncomfortable.
    But,
    It was amazing and AE was all but 'forced' to repeat it the next day from incredible audience demands.
    Hmmm?
    The 'problem' is that many accused him of making something that 'while true and good' could have also given 'racist types' some sort of ammunition.
    Bad.
    He lost alot of favour with 'Hollywood'.

    Cameron is an odd one.
    He really has been 'King of Hollywood' and he all but made them acknowledge him whether they liked it or not.
    Titanic alone.
    Anyways, Cameron has also had a wacky sort of 'outs' in Hollywood for reasons i dont know why either.

    The point here is that Cameron and Simcha are standing around at a time when Passion of the Christ all but punched Hollywood in the face.
    Ok.
    So just for that here comes Davinci Code to punch right back.
    Gibson + Are you a Jew + Apocalypto
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    .
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    Guess what.. here comes Jesus Family Tomb riding the strength of Davinci and right before Easter assholes!
    Simcha and Cameron winning themselves back Big Time too!

    Anyways, I think they might have screwed up this time.
    Even though Davinci Code did succeed into duping many people.. it also made them more alert to 'hoaxs' and this 'incredible timing' thing.

    Im definately interested in their evidence but its important that people realise what this is.
    Its a rather old discovery and it already had a (now debunked) movie 'documentary' made about it.
    This is a remake.
    There has been some 'funny business' going on with this film. (not illegal but ethical complaints etc).

    Anyways, the whole thing seems to be met with the rest of the archeological world pretty much telling them they are dicks.
    Jesus Hoaxumentary Ridiculed

    Personally, I dont care if its 'stupid' or the majority are laughing at it either. I want to see their case put forward and if there are good points in it then take them for what they are.

    Still,
    My favourite line in that article:
    What Cameron should have done, is label his work as fiction, and save himself from embarassment. If this is some kind of pi**ing contest with Mel Gibson, Gibson won.
     
  15. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Yes, I agree that the person of Christ is a far cry from the legend that has built up around him by the church (which is what MOST Xtians believe).

    And yes, you can learn a lot from his teachings (alone).

    However it is the LEADERS of Christian churches, who for their own political and economic demands have dragged the name of Christians thru the mud for centuries.

    Even today Xtian leaders continue to promote intolerance, divisiveness, and yes even hate.

    So if you consider yourself a TRUE christian, ie: one who follows the words of christ ALONE without a book to mislead you, then it should be your solemn duty to unmask such chalatans, and see that they are tossed from their pulpits and lay upon them the karma due the entire Xtian establishment.

    You should be rebels the way hippies are rebels.

    You should be out protesting in front of these "churches" that preach intolerance and hate. If not, YOU are not a true christian, and are in breach of your faith.

    It amazes me that in such a Xtian country as America we allow hate to breed in our churches. We let churches dictate morality not just to their followers but to the whole country. And as churches are involved in the political process to such a degree as telling ppl who to vote for, likewise they should also be the targets of political protests by Christians who despise their imposition upon the American electoral system.

    Otherwise you Xtians are just full of hot air, if you don't practice what you preach!
     
  16. skip

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    A flame baiting topic is something that is on every news channel, right? Gimme a break. Is this an attempt at more Xtian censorship? Oh that's right I forgot to mention in this thread when talking about intolerance how Xtians don't even want us to read certain things.

    "literally mocking and scorning and later posting personal insults..."

    When I say YOU in such a context it is almost always in the 3rd person plural. Get used to it.

    When ppl claim that Xtians are so tolerant, THAT is an insult & mocks the intelligence of our members.

    If I didn't think Xtians are directly responsible for most of the censorship & intolerance in America, I would be more tolerant of them myself. But as an agent of Karma, I am required to do unto others as they do unto others.

    It's called just desserts.

    Enjoy!
     
  17. Posthumous

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    Amen
     
  18. Portalguy

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    WOW I agree with a lot what Skip said! (Not everything.) That's scary. I don't think it's cool for the operator of Free Speech boards to be getting involved in such matters though. PLEASE DON'T BAN ME. Anyway, that is NOT the body of Jesus Christ. They said there was so many holes in this story NonChristian Archaeologists and Historians were making fun of this "discovery".

    They have DNA of evidence? Of what? The names Mary, Joseph, and Jesus in their given language were VERY common. There is also claims they read scratches as part of the lettering and the name could of likely been different. There's also the fact that if Jesus faked this whole thing and lived about 5 miles from where he preached a lot of what we're taught then someone would've exposed him. This is all cashing in on The DaVinci Code. Nothing more. Nothing less.
     
  19. Posthumous

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    Though I disagreed with the decision, I totally understand why they removed your intolerant rhetoric to this board. You come off as a car saleman/telemarketer type spreading religious spam across the boards like it were well-ripened horse dung. Everyone heard you tell us damn heathens we'll burn in hell for the remainder of eternity the first time, repeating it four hundred times is just overkill and annoying.
     
  20. skip

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    Who said Jesus himself ever faked anything? I have respect for him as an enlightened man. He was crucified and he died. Period. Who said he didn't die? All they had to do was hide the body. Which they did.

    What happened is AFTER his death, a group of followers decided that to keep the "organization" together they needed to keep & enhance his legend.

    Just like the followers of Islam did with Mohammed.

    Just like the followers of Ronald Reagan do today.

    Just like the followers of G.W. Bush will do tomorrow.

    It's not the historical person that's important, esp. after they're dead, it's ONLY the legend, legacy, and political power derived from it that matters to those who want to profit from their dead "martyr".
     

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