Thickening and other general things

that myspace sites redicilpise its a fucking scam if u ever saw 1 just liik at the so called natural freads there aint nothin natural about 1 signle 1 of them theyrse all stickly stiff gtoss messes..look at the shardp secyioninmg the stiffness theyre all fake as can be
and how much did she charge you for your glues together mess?

dude..id seriusly suggest starting iver the right way because these wont last

im getting close to 20 years now dreading..the only reasoin mine could last so long is never put gross crap on em..glue sounds like that liquid latex crap hell;odreadhead was scammed into using..
the reason the hair art the roots is so much thicker then the rest is..thats the only part thats really dreaded..or ever will be really dreaded the new growth the rest is just glued together..

squeeze it at the roots and at the tips does it feel different?
the glie hasnt gone away or washed out but all the rolling broke it up some..
i dint mean to be harsh either but dude u fot screwed
i would seriuslky comb em oiut and start over right
cause i can guaranree b4 u get to a year you'll wish youd never made that mistake..

 

just so u know i just wrote her asking how the hell she could dare call thoise natural dreads...i doubt she will ever reply
what a scam

edit :
ok i give her credit for at least responding

heres the convo
my most recent reply 1st but my most recent reply never made it to her because she blocked me... cant deffend her own work?


so do you inform these clients that these methods are not the preffered way to go do you inform them that they would have better results from simply doing nothing or do you sell them the idea that its nesacary to use these methoids and productrs to obtain dreads in causasion haor
do u inform them of the long term problems too like dirt and griome and moild being trapped in sticky gopo?
do you offer alternatives that are less fake
even the worse waxy mess can survive 5 years syre they'll be gross as hell by then but they can survive that long...but show my 1 that used these methids that survived 15+


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Urban Halo Dreadlocks and Braiding
Date: Oct 25, 2008 9:38 PM


I find that I also have to rescue a number of messes where clients have either followed instructions off the internet or been to salons who do not understand how to make dreadlocks (esp in caucasian hair) stay put.

I agree, stuffing hair with a 'goo' of wax and glue just makes it slimey and grotesque and the knots slide out within a matter of months, sometimes even weeks. I also use a combination of methods, a thin glue spine is just a tiny part of the process in my style of dreadlocks as my clients tend to demand a lower maintenance style than dreadlocks have traditionally always been. As for the permanence of my styles, I have dreadlock clients who still have their style 4 and 5 years on, by which time the glue has washed/worked itself out and the hair itself holds its own knots sufficiently. So there aren't in fact any problems there.

The reason I do them in the way that I do, is that a large proportion of my client base seem to lack the skills to create and upkeep authentic natural dreads (as in the sense you are meaning). Obviously it would be preferable stylewise if all my clients were able to keep 'proper' dreadlocks properly, but unfortunately most are not. They are also looking for a similar type of style/effect which will become neater more quickly, as you and I will both know, it can take anything up to a year for authenticdreads to settle and mature properly and look neat for work purposes.

I don't intend to continue this discussion with you any further, but unlike yourself, I do understand why you prefer to work in the way that you do, and I respect that.

Seeing as I am also running my own business rather than laying back spongeing benefits off the government, and also given the fact that my work has earned itself an excellent reputation in all corners of the UK, and that I am up working at 2.30am to keep my clients needs met, I strongly suggest that you respect my work also.

I find it unfortunate that someone from what looks like such a lovely community can approach complete strangers with such an unnecessarily nasty attitude.

Now please leave me to get on with my work, I have documents to complete.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..soaring eagle..
Date: 26 Oct 2008, 01:18


they are in no way natural dreads and you should specify that exactly..they arent even dreads, just haoir glued together that wont last a year..i'm so tired of cleannimng up messes made by scam artists posing as loctitions..dreads do not need glue they do not need loctutions they dnot need you and they do not need to be bought from scam artists


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Urban Halo Dreadlocks and Braiding
Date: Oct 25, 2008 9:14 PM


Thank you for your concern. Natural in 'natural dreadlocks' simply reflects that the style is using the client's own hair, rather than synthetic extensions.

You have your own style, I have mine.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..soaring eagle..
Date: 26 Oct 2008, 01:11


how the hell can u call those gross glued stucky stiff fake as hell "dreads" natural?
thet are far from nartural..please change that so you do not imply natural dreads are anything like those gross sticky messes..no salon no loctician no products give you natural dreads thoise are faker then the scams from knottyboy and dreadheadhq
they are the worse looking dreads ive ever seen

 

Seriously, i'm starting to get a little annoyed here. You're all going off stuff that's happened to you or crap you've heard. My ends are folded over because there is thread in my dreads and it's wrapped round the end. Check the website for proof that it works. I know people who've had theirs done by the same person and had theres for years. Please don't tell me that I've done something wrong when I know for a fine fact that I haven't considering that I've got evidence growing out of my head. The person who did it has been doing dreads for many, many years and the only complaint she has ever had was an allergic reaction to wax. And that's fair enough, because using wax does seem bad.
Like I said, it only helps keep it together to start with then it comes out and is completely undetectable fom the very start. I'm satisfied with it because I know I have nice dreads, and asthetically speaking, they're better than alot of other people's that I've seen.

Ans soaringeagle, seriously. Just because of something you think doesn't work, don't go harassing people about it. I know that it works and so do many other people. I don't question your methods so don't question other peoples. I'm quite satisfied with my hair, you be satisfied with yours.
And there has never been any "stickyness" or "goo" to my hair. Never.

 

then why are there so many different products to9 remove hair glue google hair glue remolal or removers
the crap does not ccome out thats an outright lie
it looks very odvios to us that the hairs not dreaded but glued togtrher
they look fake
yours slightly less so then all the rest on her site..i was really appalled at what i saw there..and we all know knotty boy and dreadeheadhwq scam thousands of ppl every day that just dont know better..like you..they go for the instant results and end up witjh an endless mess
hers look as bad if not worse then anything on dreadheadhq
you were scammed..mamny mamny maNY PPL ARE SCAMMED
AND I DO NOT LIKE PPL BEING SCAMMED SORRY IF I WAS SIMPLY STANDING UP FOR YOIUR RIGH TO NOT BE TAKIN IN BY A SCAMMER..
I WOULD SERIUSLY ADVISE YOU TO GET THE HAIR GLUE REMOVER..DO A WAX REMOVAL..GET THE STUPID ENDS UNFOLDED AND REMOVE THE STRINGS THE STRINGS EMBEDDED IN THE HAIR WILL OVER TIME ENCOURAGE MOLD
(WHICH WONT MATTER SO MUCH CAUSE THE WAX AND GLUE WILL TOO )

SQUEEZE YOUR DREADS AT THE TIPS AND ROOTS..IS THERE NOT A DIFFERENCE IN HOW THEY FEEL BETWEEN THE GUNKED UP GLUED TOGETHER TIPS AND THE NATURAL GROWTH AT THE ROOTS?
IF YOU VALUE YOUR DREADS YOU WILL START OVER RIGHT WITHOUT THE GUNK..U MAY POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO SAVE THESZE THOUGH IF U REMOVE ALL THE CRAP

AND BTW WHEN THEY VISUALY LOOKED GUNKY THERES NO WAY TO SAY THEY ARENT..the tips look glued..almost melted together..

 

they don't feel any different because they aren't.

 

you cansee the difference the ends look completely fake glued together 3 inches up theres loose fuxzzes thats the more natural growth withouit the gunk and where they are thickening..you can see a distinct difference on each and every dread closer to the roots they lkook different..still lil gunky maybe from wax..but at least they dont look ..plastic..the tips dont look like hair at all but a melted together mass even african hair that tends to have such tight cirls they dread nearly into a silid object dont look so melted together

if your happy being scammed then by all means continue being happy but over time u will have problems and you will always have fake looking ends that look different from the rteal dreads inless u chop off the glued together ends..

how mych did she charge ya to screw u over?200? more?

 

fair enough believe what you want, I'm happy knowing I'm right because I have proof.

 

coulda had a freind backcomb for u for 30 and had far far better results that would last longeryour damn lucky the goue didnt make all your hair fall out

damn her methids piss me off ..just looked through she had a guy with beautiful natural dreads to his waist..that were perfect..and she disd a "dread rescue and tightening" that made them look rediculouse, with a pasrt in the middle bald spots between each dread and made his perfect natural locks look fake as hell



dreasds set u freee from salonds shes a hairdresser that specializes in fake dreads..why would u trust her to set iu free from salons?

ok so you were scammed once,, charged lets just assume 300..now what shewants u back every 2 weeks at another 150 weach time to do maintanance?
cant u see how the scam goes? sell u fake dreads then tell u u need her to help u fix em every 2 weeks
your dreads can cost ya over 1000 in no time..in a year u bought her a new car..if they survive 5 years u bought her a house..

u coulda got far far better results free..and u wouldnt have ppl with real dreads looking at ya funny thinkimng wtf did u do to them..

 

o'll ask ya 1 last question
who do u think will give ya better advice..someone who wants to sell you theyre methid and make a proffit off ya..or someone who simply wants you yo have the best dreads you can have and isnt making a cent off it?

 

Nono. I already had (backcombed) dreads before i went to her and they where just a mess, I looked like a homeless kid or something. All she done was neaten them up. And as for the gap between each dread, that only lasts a few days then it goes back to normal.
And I dont have to go back to her at all.
And nobody with "real" dreads look at me funny. They compliment me and ask how I got them to work so well.

 

other 16 year olds? when u tell em you glued your hair together do they laugh?
backcombed hair takes time to become dreads everyone gpes through that awkwatd messy stage its part of the process..by trying to jump ahead straight to mature you came out looking fake and rediculouse..i know im being harsh im just truing to impress in you how big of a mistake that was.. putting on a wool tam and waitting woulkd have neattened them up on theyre own without makin em look so fake


you still havent admitted to how much she ripped ya off for.. was it over 400/

 

No, adults who've had them for years. Seriously, you haven't even seen or them for yourself so I don't know how your telling me what my own damn hair is like.
It was like 50 or something but my sister payed for it.
And for jesus fucking christ's sake, they don't look fake, so don't start with that shit because you don't know what you're talking about because you don't even know what they look like apart from a vague outline of them from a bad quality picture.

 

How do you view your dreads as a spiritual thing?
If they are spiritual, why put glue in your hair for the "asthetics"?

How much glue did she put in your hair, exactly? How long do you plan to have dreads for?

Looking at the pictures of the older dreads she posts...and this is only my personal opinion...they look very straight and skinny...which I find to be boring, but I guess some people like them better that way...but I wonder if the glue prevents them from making loops and bumps and what not. it's really hard to say anything without getting a closer look.

I've never done this myself, so I can't say if it will work out well in the end or not, but I would imagine that the glue would never wash out, and either become sticky in the long term or melt into your hair and make it brittle...like I said, I do not know this for certain, it's just based off some of the things I've heard.

can you sort of "open" up your hair at all to look inside? what does it look like?
I don't think anybody is trying to offend you, people have just had a lot of bad experiences or have seen them. that being said, nobody should make assumptions.

I am not trying to be rude, just some questions.

 

@askasha;
in her pictures they look skinny and spaced out, they go like that for the like a week or so then they thicken up and the spaces between them go unnoticable. And I started it as a spiritual thing, but my hair is something i'm really sensitive about and I hated going everywhere to have people think "what the hell is going on with his hair". The amount of glue that was in it is close to non-existent, there was a tiny but put in to help them along a bit towards the start. There is no difference with my dreads from anyone elses. They have never once been gooey or sticky or anything like that. It will never melt, it will never go gooey, it will not ruin it or anything. And I plan to keep my dreads for the rest of my life until i go bald. I can't open my hair up, but you can see what the inside looks like sort of, from little gaps in the root. All that's in there is tangled hair. If you want to imagine what my hair looks like, here's how to;

Imagine a dreadlock. A normal, stantard, mature, knotty dreadlock. There you go. That's exactly what it looks like and what it is.

There you go. I can't seem to stress enough to these people that my hair is exactly the same as theirs.
No one i know who has had their dreads done/fixed up by this woman has complained at all, and I've met a whole bunch of her clients. I have healthy, clean, non-sticky dreadlocks. If I can get a picture of them up close with a better camera I will post it for you as soon as I can.

 

your oversensativity is whgat drove ya to her and allowed ya to be victimized by her


oh poor you you were going through what every dready gpes through to grow dreads..the infancy stage you couldnt stand ppl wonderling why they didnt look mature

so u rush off to buy maturity..now your sensativity is making u deffend the mustakes hopw dare we call em fake looking when the glue makes em liik tight..you even dare call em mature dreads ar what 2 months?
mTURE DREADS ARE DREADS NOT GLUED TOGETHER NOT FILDER OVER AND TIED TOGETHER THEY TAKJE TIME..DEDICATION NOT RUNNING OFF TO A SCAMMER TO BE FORCED INTO UNNATURAL; STUCK TOGETHER FAKE LOOKING CLUMPS THAT CAN APPEAR MATURE IF YOUR FAR ENOUGH AWAY.


ASK YOUR SIS WHAT SHE PAID I BET YA ANYTHING IT WAS OVER 50


IF YOUR SO POSSITIVE TNHAT THERES NO GUNK IN THERE THEN what would ut hurt to be sure and get some hair glue remoiver and remove any that might be there?
but we can see it from bad pictures..get good close pics of the tips where the glues most odvios

 

I can't believe how retarded you actually are. I'm going to give up being polite and repeating the same fucking simple facts now because you've down right offended me. If you continue to bother me I will bruteforce your account and change the password so you can't post any more.

 

your too easily offended thats why ya were such an easy mark for her scams...you were so worried what others thiught you allowed glue to be put in your hair
you talked about premature thinning at age 16..hmmm and youd alow someone top do crap that could risk ya losing it all?
dude wake up im tryin to help u save your dreads..save your hair
what the fuck can uit hurt to do the glue removal? oh yea it'll hurt your pride to admit that ya made a dumb mistake

go ahead brute force password change ..great way to get an ip ban i'd guess

youd be screwing yourself outta the best advice availibly oinline all because your too dumb to take good advice when ya see it..but oh so willing to take bad advice and even pay for it

 

here, i'll announce to everyone that im going to screw over a respected member of the site, good plan.

if you dont want the advice, dont take it. i dont see how threatening to close someone's account helps anything.

 

I seriously don't care at all. There's a difference between trying to help and being outright rude.
I don't mean to lash out at all but listen. I know for a fine fact that the method used on my hair works because it has been proven.
Imagine this scenario, the world's main mode of transport is bikes. Then the car is invented. A few people use the car but most stick to tradition and ride their bike, preaching that using a car is wrong, when in fact they have never used it thereselves, only going on stories of people crashing it and hurting themselves.
Some people who use the car and understand the safety precautions continue to use it because frankly, it works. It's different but it works. Do you see what I mean here? I in no way see my hair supperior or inferior to any "natural" method of dreadlocks. Wheather you ride your bike to the finish line or drive your car, your getting to the same place.

 

the methid u used has been proven to fuck up dreads weve seen it over and iover and over..so u tried it for a feww weeks and all the sudden your an expert?

ok so the car was just invented you hop behoind the wheel with absolutely no understanding of what a car is or can do you go racing along as fast as you can ignorant of the pilution ignorant of the drain on natural resources and ignoranmt of the dangers of ecxcessive speed you nearly run over a few biciclist in youir haste and one yells ya yo dude slow down or you'll hurt yourself but your like no way man u got a car u got a boke how can u know anuythimng about cars..
so..when you smash ypour car into a wall are you any less dead?

maybe some ppl choose the bicycle because its a safer smarter cheaper choice that does far less dammage when u crash


dreads have existed since life existed

lets examine this another way..

to stay warm man discovered fire
we also learned splitting atoms create even greatter heat..
so if your chilly you have the choice of lightimhg a fire or setting off an iucontrolled nuclear explosion
buith will get you toame place..watmth but ones sane and safe ..the other isnt..

you glued your fuckin hair man think for a second how sane is that?

the formula for dreads hairx(movementxtime)=dreads
you tried cheatting by removing movement and time from the equsation so what u got is hairxglue=hairgluedtogether
how can glue alow movement how can time help dread without movement..how can u cheat time expecting instant results..the only way is ..fake it... glue it all into a mess that vaguly resembles dreads.. this is her scam..anyone who does synthetic dreads is a master at the scam fake dreads is theyre expertise..
then she calls fake dreads using real hair "natural"
so its easy to get sucked in to believing this is how dreads are made


standimng next to an uncontrolled nuclear reaction you will get very warm veryu quickly..but how long do ya think ya can live with that kinda stupid mistake?

for millions of years we've known fire is warm..and dreads happen on theyre own
now u got promices of quicker better resilts with gles and splitting atoms...but ask yourseldf are the risks worth it..you want to keep ypur dreads a lifetime then get that gunk out and let them grow as nature intended