Those Against Homosexuality Are Not Bigots

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Maccabee, May 5, 2016.

  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Do you believe everything on the Internet or on CNN? You condemn me for supporting my claim via articles which you haven't disproven while your side is doing the same thing only I'm disproving them. No I don't believe everything on the Internet. That's why I don't believe your links. Now if they have something to back their claim then I'll believe.
    Ditto to you.
     
  2. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    If roles were reversed and it was an underage female I would still call it pedophilia. I dont have an agenda, I'm just a regular person who also sees gay people as regular people.
     
  3. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Oh gawd......
    Well I was hoping for some actual scientific research paper, not a bunch of articles all from the same website....*sigh*

    you posted one article twice and none of them actually say a lot about the science behind the research nor do any of them support the ludicrous titles of "gender-bending chemicals".
    the only one really intriguing is about the mercury poisoning the birds, but even that one said there is no correlation to humans and NOT to make that leap.

    Your going to have to do a lot fucking better than that if you want to impress anyone with your info, especially folks like me who know how to conduct research and evaluate it.
    seriously, you offer the daily news and the telegraph as legit sources of scientific research.......LOL
     
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  4. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    in case you were not aware, this guy, [​IMG], means "see ya later" as in I'm done with your stupidity.

    Have a nice day. :daisy:
     
  5. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't believe this kid for a second. Same old-same old------- he is echoing mommy and daddys spin on this and it harkens to the 50s and back. I met this--I know that---
    ---I don't believe your links-----. personally, I think gays and others that don't adhere to THE RITUALS of society--just want to be left the fuck alone. They haven't been, thus the recent push to be treated fairly or least to back off the rhetoric. Probably tired of being used, abused, beaten , tortured and sometimes killed.
     
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  6. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    You are also perfectly allowed to your opinion. :) I actually wasn't talking about abusive customers (although I get rid of those too) but about customers who don't fit the profile of the customer I want to have. Of course if you sell pizza you don't necessarily have a real specific customer profile but the principle applies nevertheless.
    And yes it is different if I turn away the KKK .... I do it for a good reason.
     
  7. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Or neither, maybe I'm right. Maybe I'm just expressing my opinion for discussion, critical thinking, and debate and come to a conclusion. And if I'm sheltered then I wouldn't be here would I? I would stick to my own crowd. Also this thread wasn't attacking homosexuals, it was defending those who have a different opinion than yours.

    Well if I'm to do something it would be to reach out to them.
     
  8. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    I'm curious, why are YOU here?

    Everything about you tells me that you are either a current/former member just fucking with people, or you lurked around the site until you had a good idea of how to present yourself to get the most reaction.
    You sig pic, your sig lines, you claim to be a young black jewish christian man (lol), etc.etc. etc.

    In short, you have tailor made a persona and profile to elicit the most reactions from this audience.
    you ain't foolin' anyone.


    hmmmm, could a perma-ban be in order for such an obviously fabricated persona??????
     
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  9. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    The problem is that the word effectively puts the cart before the horse and implies intent, design and normalcy.
    There is a blindingly obvious difference between saying: "sex results in reproduction, which continues the species." and saying: "The purpose of sex is reproduction, which continues the species."

    I don't feel a word that "better conveys" what sex is "for" is appropriate. Sex isn't "for" anything, nor does it involve "consideration". It results in reproduction (sometimes) and this continues the species. It was useful to the process of passing on genetic information and therefore it stuck around, like all inheritable traits that are still around.

    The term "purpose" doesn't make any sense in an evolutionary context, and implies a sense of morality to reproduction that doesn't exist. It is not a morally neutral term, and sex is a morally neutral action. These two reasons are why I objected to its use.
     
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  10. Perfect Disorder

    Perfect Disorder Paradoxically Spontaneous

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    Ahh the oldest thought in human consciousness. That guy is different than me. Beat him into submission. Is it better, worse, or equal that the beating is done verbally here instead of physically? Would a club be more humane?
     
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  11. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    To use your logic thousands of birds falling dead from the sky is normal.

    But it's more than just that. There's the danger aspect and moral aspect as well. Bone cancer is natural (to use your terminology) but do you promote it or say that we shouldn't do anything about it?

    It takes a third party to reproduce for a homosexual couple. It's already complicated enough for two people to reproduce a child (and that's why many couples fail to have children) but to add a third party in the mix is even more complicated.

    That fact still remains that the homosexual lifestyle is prevalent for diseases. And no "safe sex" is 100% safe.
     
  12. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    To debate and discuss in a civil matter. And also to see if its even possible when debating with left leaning people.

    I haven't lurked much. Someone from another forum linked to this site, I clicked on it and figured "why not give it a shot?"

    Everything I claim about me is true. I'm a mutt of many ethnics, races, and tribes but I come out black. I'm a Christian Jew. I'm 19 turning 20 this year. Can you prove any of it to be false? I'm not going to give you my picture, phone, or home address if that's what your asking for.

    Which you have no basis for your claim. And to prove it here's the forums that I'm in that I use Maccabee.

    www.debate.org

    www.politicalforum.com

    www.hipforums.com

    I'm also in an airsoft forum by the same name but I'm not active there and I forgot the web address.
     
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  13. Kiprat

    Kiprat ophidiophobe

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    Oh come off it. Is that the "best" you can do?

    That was what appeared at the top of Google.

    And here's some I found just now via Google:-

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7440-gender-bending-chemicals-found-to-feminise-boys/

    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs225/en/

    http://articles.***********/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/18/research-proves-genderbending-chemicals-affect-reproduction.aspx

    There's literally 1000s of these articles. But I bet you'd rather keep your head in the sand like an ostrich!

    There's plenty of other "hardcore science" sites that say exactly the same thing.
    Ofcourse you'll choose to ignore them. Because thats what the REAL bigots do!
     
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  14. Kiprat

    Kiprat ophidiophobe

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    Well just look at the science of it, via my links or via Google.Is it right that we are subjected to hormone altering chemicals ie homosexuality causing, GENDER altering chemicals (effeminisation and butchness causing), cancer causers, sterility causers etc

    This isn't Fox news, this is organisations like the WHO etc and world respected scientists. Even tho Monsanto and co spend fortunes trying to suprress the truth.
     
  15. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    Reach out to them for what reason?
     
  16. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    thank you, that explains it much better. Yes, I was/am aware of the subtle connotations implied by using the word "purpose", but I honestly couldn't think of something else to more succinctly convey my thought.
     
  17. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    The same reason why some people reach out to smokers. They are hurting themselves.
     
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  18. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    *sigh*
    you failed science class, right?
    You do realize that for the most part those articles are simply re-hashing the same info, don't you?

    Here is the problem, while it can not be denied that some man-made chemicals are having effects on animals, including humans, that can influence their endocrine systems and some research does indicate that certain chemicals mimic female hormones and result in issues for developing fetus'
    BUT nowhere in ANY of the articles you have presented is a causal link made between these chemicals and homosexuality, which is what you have been claiming all along.

    discernment and critical thinking are wonderful things, you should try them sometime. ;)
     
  19. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    BUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
    :smilielol5:
     
  20. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    Oh I'm sure that will go over well, decades of fighting for gay rights just for some 18 year old kid to tell them they need to go back in the closet.

    Well damn, I was hoping it was to expand your own mind and befriend people who are different than you in an attempt to better understand them.

    Oh well.
     
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