Thoughts on the Abortion of human babies

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I was forged with magic spells.

 

I was found under a rock, and my sister was delivered by the stork.

 

I like the magic spells =]

 

So you were conjured out of thin air,

Ok, that explains why there's a subgroup within the field of embryology called teratology


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Well, it's arguable that an embryo isn't "alive", in the sense that a human is alive after birth (some people don't consider a fetus alive until it is born). It can't anticipate fear or pain. It has no capacity for suffering. An infant can feel the pain of death, and has experienced life.

I'm not sure what you mean by "value." I don't know if it has more "value", but it is more complicated once an infant is born or when it is in the late stages of development, in utero.

 

Many people have asked me my opinion on the issuse of abortion of unborn and or undeveloped fetuses and I am absolutely against it... Yes there are many unplanned pregnancies or victims of rape who end up pregnant... What the women who decide to get an abortion neglect to think about are all the women out there who can't have children of their own and end up adopting or the homosexual couples (mainly men) who if they want to have children either have to adopt or find a surrogate who is willing to have artificial insemination done so the male couples may have children... My cousin is a gay man and he and his husband of 6 years have adopted 3 children because they figured rather than artificially inseminate someone and bring more children into the world they would adopt the children whose parents either didn't want them, weren't financially stable enough to care for them or were to young to be parents... The last child they adopted was a little girl whose biological mother was a victim of rape... I have spoken to this young woman myself seeing as she was only 15 she is only 6 years younger than I am but her mother gave her the option of either carrying full-term and putting the baby up for adoption or getting an abortion mind you at 15 you may think abortion is the way to go... Not this young girl she told her mother that she could never take away the life of the child growing inside her because it's just that another life and having an abortion is technically murder... Now I myself at 20 have been pregnant 3 times the first time I was 5 1/2 months along with a little girl and my cousin kicked me down the stairs killing my daughter and I had to have a DNC done and the last couple times I have been pregnant I never got more than 2 weeks to a month before I miscarried so as to the subject of abortion I am against it because if I can't have children of my own I plan to adopt... If I had a chance to go to some of the abortion clinics I would talk to the women and young girls there and tell them why what they are doing is wrong... I have rd one it before I talked my best friend out of getting an abortion and now she has a beautiful little boy who will be 2 in 6 months

 

pregnancy prevention is preferable. there are waaaay too many humans already. better to die before becoming addicted to life then after.

 

Pro Abortion here.

 

Pro Abortion here, but wait till they are in their 20s to see if they are going to star in a reality tv show or join the republican party before you abort

 

I'm all for abortion and the different methods of contraception (condom, pill, Depo Provera, etc.), because they allow women to have control upon their destiny and autonomy upon their bodies and life choices. They can choose if they wanna have children or not, end the pregnancy if they can't physically bear it or if it's not good for them in the situation they're in at the moment they get knocked up (too young, studies not done yet, addiction problems, dire poverty, father ran away, etc.). It also allows women to become mothers when they want to and feel ready for it, with no coercion. I think it's better for the kids in the end cause they're desired and have parents more suited to take good care of them.

I think it,s cruel, not to say inhuman, to force a woman to go through a process like a pregnancy if she doesn't want to. Bearing a baby takes its toll on a woman's body, it's extremly challenging even in the healthiest of pregnancies, so imagine when complications rear their ugly heads... They can put the mother's health (physical and psychological) at high risk, some can even be lethal. Putting a woman through intense suffering and possibly on death row by giving more rights to somebody who doesn't exist yet than her makes no sense to me, I can't understand how someone in his/her right mind can think this is the right thing to do. If you're pro-life, I think you should nurture, take care and promote the rights of the people who actually live and not the ones who are still just a possibility.

I'm not religious but I believe in being fair, in compassion, in taking care of all that's living and doing what's right. I believe in a higher being tho, and I tell myself that if It is really all love, forgiveness and compassion like we usually think It is, then It won't judge us harshly for doing what we think is best.

Pffft I think this comment is rude, ignorant and judgemental. I was planned, desired and loved even before I was born because my parents chose willingly to bring me into this world, and honestly everybody should be born in such a loving environment. People who don't wanna have kids, who are not ready or in good condition to take care of a little one make for terrible parents and said kids are at higher risk to be victims of all kinds of abuse (physical, sexual and/or psychological violence, neglect, murder, abandonment, etc.). Is that really any better than ending a pregnancy with an abortion?

 

Well, once again, I am neither pro or against. I am for the right of the individual to make their own decisions....so I am pro choice...It is really a pet peeve of mine for people to sit in judgement morally of what anyone else does, if they are not involved. It is a pet peeve of mine for people not minding their own damn business unless asked.
Everyone has their own life to live...and should let others do the same.

 

A friend of mine used to say that abortion should be legal until the fetus is 18 years old. I think she was joking, but I'm not sure.

 

Since I'm unable to carry and birth a potential human--in a way, it's none of my beeswax. I have my opinion.

" life begins at conception." Heard this forever. At what point are any of the components that come together to form a human--not living material? Aren't sperm alive? The eggs? They're certainly not dead matter that magically transform into living matter.

I have the utmost respect for women---they can " make" an entire new human from within themselves. Rough deal, IMO.

Too bad it's so easy to get pregnant.

Maybe what I wrote above is specious.

 

Well, that does not seem well-thought-out. If we were talking about murder (I don't think we are, but a lot of people think so), your argument completely falls apart.

 

Wake up and smell the coffee, SF. We are talkng about choice......

CHOICE

Maybe you would like your whole life to be policed by the moral police, as well.

 

lol murder .. better call Perry Mason.

 

I'm more concerned with the MURDER of SO MANY animals every day.....where is the uprise over that?

 

Don't you get it? You are saying that having a choice is more important than preventing murder (again, this is not my position but a lot of people would see it that way). I don't agree. If I felt that abortion was murder, I would be fully justified in preventing it and I wouldn't care about your having a choice.

 

My question to you, Sunfighter is WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO IMPRESS? LOL
Of course, I know what pro lifers think and feel, as much as I know what pro choicers think and feel.
I know how both sides look at it. I am pro choice...end of story...I have a right to voice my thoughts and feelings just like anyone else around here.
If you say you might not be a pro lifer than why play devil's advocate with me and ride my ass? I am not on the political threads where you speak and someone may not agree with you and flaming you with their feelings, am I?....even when I agree with you most of the time.

In all seriousness, this is just another one of those devisive issues, where never the two shall meet.....and no one is going to change any minds around here.