Thoughts on the possibilities of shared conciousness?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by tastyweat, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. magic_rocks

    magic_rocks ٱللهِ ٱلرّ

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    In my experience, this sort of event eventually gives rise to even stranger occurrences, for which there is no common name (in English) but could roughly be considered as causal-acausal (i.e. purposefully designed) meaningfully connected coincidences. Synchronicity with the added dimension of direct control from unseen and unknown sources to a point where 'all is in tune' so to speak, where 'all' is operated simultaneously by some kind of further fundamental; I hesitate to refer to it as divine-mind and realize that this does not do it justice as it is only a reflection on the surface level. What it implies is horrifying and so-called impossible and, in my opinion, could only occur if it were a given that our actual lives are rather something resembling our dreams. For those of us with psychedelic history this is sometimes taken for granted, but still this state of mind is something I rarely see discussed, and understandably so. Predeterminism as a concept is as old as dirt; what I wonder at is how many people have been given subjective personal 'proof' of this, not solely in the manner of a vision, but in actuality, having handed over the reigns to it and watched it unfold? I do not know what 'it' is, and can only hope somebody has undergone the same existential review, preferably more than once, in order to discuss this further.
     
  2. tastyweat

    tastyweat Member

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    I know what you're referring to, I believe.

    Part of this same trip, I had a visual of a basic lattice structure sitting at the base of the universe... it didn't seem like a set of particles, it seemed like an "order".

    An I commented when I saw it that it was only disturbed by our influence/consciousness... my interpretation of that could be, there is supposed to be an order like that which you speak... but perhaps our presence, our sentience, our consciousness can directly influence it, or at least make it wiggle out of line a bit?
     
  3. tastyweat

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    VERY!







    It's such a shame this stuff is illegal everywhere... it would be great to organise a meetup/trip with you guys :sunny:
     
  4. tastyweat

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    Well, when you think about it on a very basic level... we each possess our own, individual, universe... it's what's inside our heads.

    Each consciousness is effectively a unique universe.

    Although with the possibilities of alternate universes... every idea, every potential collision, every last little thing that has more that 1 outcome... is a brand new universe. The possibilities are mind-boggling.

    I've posted this before... but I really love how this post from someone else on another forum puts an idea branched from this across:
    http://www.tenthdimension.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2016



    A perfect way to phrase it... quantum physics really does give a methodology for anything to happen, even if it may not truly exist in this universe... what's to say it cannot interact with this universe?

    Higher dimensional beings that seeded life on this planet = god (or perhaps even created the whole universe of course, or at least the bit we can perceive).

    And this all loops back to that darn Egg story, lol!!! Ever since Porkstock linked me to it, I can't get away from it's wonderful view:
    I've read this story to friends on their peak and it's always lead to incredible feelings and visuals :)
     
  5. tastyweat

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    When my friend got to meet his god on his DMT + LSD experience... he came out with a quote along the lines of:

    "I could see him and he knew I was there... but we both knew that if he looked directly at me, I would be gone... obliterated"

    The observer effect from a higher dimensional being would be astonishing & could quite easily destroy us.

    Given his quantum physics knowledge is a little lacking, his understanding of the concept during and after that trip was completely spot-on... very interesting that such an idea would come from the trip.
     
  6. tastyweat

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    That doesn't sound too outlandish to me... sounds like something worth exploring :sunny:
     
  7. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    This has the makings of a good thread.

    The last time I tripped someone for their first time, I did a little rap about particles, observer effect, and the like. We were all pretty high and much music.
    The guy wasn't one to read about such stuff. I mentioned the ideas of (such little i know) of string theory and particle spin and vibration. And asked him if he'd ever heard of "vibes". When he said ya, and it sunk in what I was inferring too, he got quiet.
    He's expressed no interest in 4 aco dmt since.
     
  8. guerillabedlam

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    I'll point to the basics of the function of some of these neurotransmitters. Neurotransmitters can function slightly differently depending on the area of the brain they are sending signals to. A lot of specific neurotransmitter sites implicated in the involvement of schizophreniza and/or various psychedelic drugs I've learned about on my own time and some of the specific sites I don't fully understand myself or know specifically where they are located, but perhaps some of this more basic information can be easier to grasp.

    Serotonin:
    http://www.webmd.com/depression/features/serotonin

    Dopamine:
    http://www.news-medical.net/health/Dopamine-Functions.aspx

    Glutamate:
    http://www.neurotransporter.org/glutamate.html

    One reason I suggested there is a cumulative effect of different neurotransmitters involved with schizophreniza is that you can see how some of those neurotransmitters functions overlap. Neurotransmitters often directly influence one another as well, so it can be difficult with some of these disorders to pinpoint precise locations and. Being that a lot of the antipsychotic drugs are fairly pinpoint that could be one reason that they are generally only effective on a proportion of the population suffering from said disorder.

    As this relates to psychedelics, when I see discussions of the pharmalogical actions of psychedelics (drugs in general we could argue) I often see a very limited scope of the drugs action given, which explains probably only a fragment of the psychedelic experience. I very much enjoy learning about the pharmalogical effects these drugs have on the brain and while I think that there can perhaps be a challenge to some sense of profundity you may hold in regards to the psychedelic experience, I think they can provide insight into many conditions of the human experience and I still echo Terrence Mckenna's sentiments that nothing replaces direct experience.


    Here is one of those limited scope of neurotransmitter sites. The 5ht2a receptor site which is a serotonin receptor site that would probably be of most interest to you and I as it's the one the Indole (Tryptamine/Lysergamides) and Phenethylamine psychedelics drugs affect. I didn't know it perhaps may have a role in schizophrenia as well prior to searching for information on neurotransmitters but I find it interesting and thought I'd share.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK1853/

    It makes me think of this sample (I'm not sure who it's from) in the song LSD by Ott "LSD tends to show us that there is an area of the mind which could be called unsane, beyond sanity and yet not insane."

    This idea is seemingly contradictory to the post in the OP topic, is this idea somehow meant to be metaphorical or is there a way you resolve the idea of possessing a unique universe of consciousness with the idea of sharing consciousness?
     
  9. tastyweat

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    I mentioned in one of my posts above.

    Just because it could be considered a "unique" universe, does not mean its permanently isolated :)

    I am thinking we each have unique universes, but can share them by passing them out or letting others in.

    Either that or its a semi-isolated part of a universe/consciousness/larger being that can be temporarily unlocked :)
     
  10. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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