We dont have the same tipping culture here in the UK But sometimes I will leave a Fiver on the Table in a restaurant if the waiter is cheery or helpful
jesus, that's near ballpark prices... there's two places i normally go when i go out. one has 16 oz drafts for $1.75, and the other has $5 pitchers. most places frown upon customers going behind the bar and getting themselves drinks.
^ well yeah, that's what most beer is that they sell at most bars. there's a few fancy beer bars if i wanted to drive an hour to the city, but that's not most beers.
Most the beer at bars here is in the $5-10 range except for cheap domestic. However I went to a concert at an ampitheater a few weeks ago and they had a standard cup of IPA (and pretty much all Beer there) for $16. I think I'd rather just take drugs at shows now.
Which is another part that annoys me about it. twice as much for the same work just because its like a special occassion and I feel like getting the lobster instead of fish and chips I dont tip my phone provider, I dont tip my electricity company, thus all their employees, why I got tip some waiter/waitress. I dont get it Some have stories their mum was a hard working waitress, could find stories from people whos mum worked in a factory and never got tipped.
I don't know how it is in Australia, maybe your servers earn a living wage? They don't here, I don't even think they make $2 an hour. So when you go out to eat or drink you enter into a social contract and agree to pay at least 15% on top of the total bill. If you can't do that (in a tip based country, again might be different for you) you shouldn't go out to eat. And we can bitch about that system all day long but it doesn't change anything for the servers who don't make a living wage without tips.
When I was in America we went to a strip club in Atlanta. We bought our first beers over the bar, we handed them the money, they gave us change. Nothing was said. Thought maybe they won't ask here considering everything is overpriced etc. happened a few times nothing said. Then a friend comes down saying guy behind the bar had a whinge because he didn't tip. My friends says well what do you want? He said it's usually a dollar a drink. My friend said so take it. You want the dollar, you take it. Guy wouldn't take it. Next drink my friend got the same guy again, and said take what you want. Here's my money, you take the tip you want. Guy took his dollar tip. I went up with a nice crisp 100 dollar bill. Get some blonde bimbo. Hand her the money, I get my change and she's starts having a go at me for not tipping her. I tell her the night is young, you'll get your tip. She started going on and on and on. I grew very upset with this, absolute garbage. You don't talk down to people like this. So I snapped at her, I said "you want a tip?" She nodded. I said "well get your fucken ass down there on the floor if you want a tip and work for it!" I stormed away. Then it was just easier to get the chicks walking around with their breasts out to get the drinks for us so we didn't have to deal with those snotty bar tenders, we tipped the topless waitresses a lot, just out of spite to those girls blouses behind the bar. Fuck them. And fuck their attitude. Like I said before, it's different when somebody is physically bringing you the drinks. The girls at Oktoberfest who can carry 8+ steins of beer, hell yes you get a tip for that, they go around all day with bad wrists and they're just trying to get drinks out. Sad Sally sitting at a bar till all night doing nothing but pulling a half cold beer out of the chiller, bitch. please. At the end of the day, if a drink cost $3 then it costs $3. How can you dispute that? And in a time and era where alotta folks are cutting throats for pennies, nickels and dimes, I think it's preposterous to assume that everybody should be tipping out of a general acceptance. Especially just because you're doing your job. If you do your waitressing with a shitty attitude then all it looks like is that you filled out an application for a job you didn't want to work, and why would people be tipping?
much like meli said...anyway to simplify what she said. when you pay the electric company all the costs are included in your bill. with waitresses they are paid less to keep costs down. so it is more of an honor system. the diner leaves you the ability to pay what you feel should be paid. the old saying goes TIP stands for To Insure Promptness, if you have lousy service then by all means leave no tip. i have left a penny between me and 3 friends before. as for the part about keeping the costs down, if i go to an overpriced place...i dont mean a gourmet restaurant where they serve special dishes, i mean like a diner and there is nothing different than the diner down the street that is half the price. then i will tip much lower that normal. my thoughts is if they can charge that much for a meal that should be cheaper. then they must be paying their wait staff good enough.
i dont have the time or money to waste at bars so cant say whether id tip or not ...the situation just doesnt happen in my life
i was at a bar restaurant today. happy hour mugs of pbr were a dollar each. got 2 appetizers and split them with my mom. total came to $12. so 20% would be what? about 2.40. that is for 6 mugs and 2 plates. that is the reason i dont like the percentage, and just went with the buck a beer scale. that comes out to 50% so i hope the bartender was happy with that, i know it was still cheaper than if it wasnt happy hour and i left no tip.
which is why foreigners get shitty service in the US. people in the service industry learn pretty quickly who expects them to do their job for free.
That's the most ignorantly European thing I've ever read. If you visit a country, expect to abide by its customs.
There are a lot of Germans who live around here and most of the people I know who work in the service industry hate them lol there is a big cultural divide there though, i guess it can be hard for some cultures to understand that bartenders and servers do not make a normal wage here. There is a Lebanese restaurant I eat at a lot and they always hand my tip back to me when I try to tip them
the video on this page seems to match the comments from each person on this thread and where they are from. http://foodtravel.about.com/od/tippingguide/fl/A-Brief-History-of-Tipping.htm also i found this interesting part of that article. 2. Joe's Crab Shack The Restaurants: Joe's Crab Shack is the first major chain restaurant to join the no tipping movement. The restaurant will test the new policy at 15 restaurants across the country. Why No Tipping: Ray Blanchette, CEO of parent company Ignite Restaurant Group explained, "The no-tipping service model gets us above the fray with regards to the increased minimum wage conversations that seem to be happening all over the country." Blanchette believes that compensation change will result in a higher retention rate and a better trained wait staff, resulting in an overall stronger bottom line for the restaurant. How It Works: The restaurant has increased its food prices by around 12 to 15%, while increasing wait staff wages to $14 per hour (up from the $2.13 per hour they were previously paid). However, some Tripadvisor reviewers complained that the new no-tipping policy resulted in a "glorified fast food restaurant" where wait staff did not provide appropriate service.