To the Bush supporters.

exactly and good POINT! VOTE VOTE VOTE!

 

Being pointlessly insulting is the only tool left when you can't win an argument with evidence.

 

I agree, doesn't matter who you vote for, just VOTE!

 

Lol, it really doesn't matter, I think Bush is going to win the same way he did in 2000...

 

themadcapetc.: Pink Floyd would utterly detest Bush! - ever see The Wall? Stick with Pink Floyd and DUMP BUSH!

If we get our butts to the polls and vote for Kerry then there will be no way that Bush can steal the election because if Kerry has clear victories in enough states, Bush's cronies will have to give up.

 

Yes but will they? Gore won in Florida, they didnt give up there...

 

Yea, I've seen The Wall and I know Roger openly wants Kerry to win, but you're 1 of those people who says Pink Floyd like it's 1 person, Dave, Rick, Nick and Syd have never said really anything politcal for this election.

 

I have no idea what the politics of the band are, nor does it matter because I do not take the word of entertainers to decide my politics.

The point is that many of us who listen to Pink Floyd indulge in life in a way that George Bush and a good portion of the Republican party would find reprehensible and immoral. Republicans have long pushed for stronger drug laws (even for simple possession), aligned themselves with the religious right who disagrees with any (unapproved) drug use, and created regressive policies with regard to drug testing, search and seizure, and access to programs like Pell grants, government loans, and government housing.

The disbelief expressed has nothing to do with the band members' politics, but everything to do with the politics of the Bush administration and the Republican party.

 

Well you know what man, there's more to life then just drugs and alcohol, maybe you need to realise that.

 

Please don't stoop to preaching to me about drugs and alcohol. My statement says nothing about use on my part or any other individual. It speaks to the well-known point that many Pink Floyd fans have a lifestyle that Republicans find to be despicable. It just seems ironic to me, that's all.

 

No, because now you are stereotyping all pink floyd fans into massive stoners, which from what I have seen, most Pink Floyd fans I know don't do any drugs at all.

 

My post said "many," not all Floyd fans. You are living in a different world if you believe that "many" is not a good descriptor for the number of Pink Floyd fans who use drugs. You claim "most" do not do drugs. A majority? Just what exactly do you think Syd Barret was into? Or the other members of the band? Or the fans at many of their shows with lasers, lights, trippy images, flying pigs, and the like?

You have also completely ignored the policy points I have made.

 

Yes, so the band used drugs, find me a band that hasn't, and you know, the vast majority of people have done some kind of drugs at 1 point in their life. And I did answer to the drug policies you listed under Bush and I told you, there is more to life then just drugs.

 

I AM JUST SAYING THAT LOVING A BAND THAT IS SO ASSOCIATED WITH DRUGS AND LOVING A PRESIDENT WHO TAKES A STAND AGAINST THEM IS IRONIC TO ME. I HAVE NEVER SAID ANYTHING CLOSE TO LIFE=DRUGS.

(To everyone else, I am sorry for abusing the Caps Lock)

 

But you only mentioned drug policies in your post. And the band itself has nothing to do with drugs, only some of the people who listen to it.

 

Never mind, I am tired of wasting my time trying to explain an abstract concept like irony to you.

 

Listen to Pink Floyd and dump Bush, Dump Republicans!

 

Dear President Bush,

I found out that my brother, Sergeant Ryan M. Campbell, was dead during a graduate seminar at Emory University on April 29, 2004. Immediately after a uniformed officer knocked at my mother's door to deliver the message that broke her heart, she called me on my cell phone. She could say nothing but "He's gone." I could say nothing but "No." Over and over again we chanted this refrain to each other over the phone as I made my way across the country to hold her as she wept.

I had made the very same trip in February, cutting classes to spend my brother's two weeks' leave from Baghdad with him. Little did I know then that the next time I saw him would be at Arlington National Cemetery. During those days in February, my brother shared with me his fear, his disillusionment, and his anger. "We had all been led to believe that Iraq posed a serious threat to America as well as its surrounding nations," he said. "We invaded expecting to find weapons of mass destruction and a much more prepared and well-trained Republican Guard waiting for us. It is now a year later, and alas, no weapons of mass destruction or any other real threat, for that matter."

Ryan was scheduled to complete his one-year assignment to Iraq on April 25. But on April 11, he emailed me to let me know not to expect him in Atlanta for a May visit, because his tour of duty had been involuntarily extended. "Just do me one big favor, ok?" he wrote. "Don't vote for Bush. No. Just don't do it. I would not be happy with you."

Last night, I listened to George W. Bush's live, televised speech at the Republican National Convention. He spoke to me and my family when he announced, "I have met with parents and wives and husbands who have received a folded flag, and said a final goodbye to a soldier they loved. I am awed that so many have used those meetings to say that I am in their prayers and to offer encouragement to me. Where does strength like that come from? How can people so burdened with sorrow also feel such pride? It is because they know their loved one was last seen doing good. Because they know that liberty was precious to the one they lost. And in those military families, I have seen the character of a great nation: decent, and idealistic, and strong."

This is my reply: Mr. President, I know that you probably still "don't do body counts," so you may not know that almost one thousand U.S. troops have died doing what you told them they had to do to protect America. Ryan was Number 832. Liberty was, indeed, precious to the one I lost-- so precious that he would rather have gone to prison than back to Iraq in February. Like you, I don't know where the strength for "such pride" on the part of people "so burdened with sorrow" comes from; maybe I spent it all holding my mother as she wept. I last saw my loved one at the Kansas City airport, staring after me as I walked away. I could see April 29 written on his sad, sand-chapped and sunburned face. I could see that he desperately wanted to believe that if he died, it would be while "doing good," as you put it. He wanted us to be able to be proud of him. Mr. President, you gave me and my mother a folded flag instead of the beautiful boy who called us "Moms" and "Brookster." But worse than that, you sold my little brother a bill of goods. Not only did you cheat him of a long meaningful life, but you cheated him of a meaningful death. You are in my prayers, Mr. President, because I think that you need them more than anyone on the face of the planet. But you will never get my vote.

So to whom it may concern: Don't vote for Bush. No. Just don't do it. I would not be happy with you.

Sincerely,
Brooke M. Campbell
Atlanta, GA
http://www.brookesstory.com/letter.htm

I know some of ya'll will probably say it's a political ploy and yes, it is, but it's also true..These are what we need to SEE, what we need to VIEW and reach deep down our hearts when we vote, asking ourselves..if we are doing the right thing, if we are listening to others..or are we just too damn stubborn to really know what is going on..whether we be Republican or Democrat..I am neither, but one thing is for sure, I was once for Bush, after he became our president, being one that TRUSTS her president, not listening to people who dissed him, getting pissed off when they did.. and I WONT make that mistake again.

 

I'm SO sorry, Brooke. I weep with you. My father is a veteran of WWII. Served in Germany under Patton. Was on the front and saw much death. Guarded the Nuremburg Trials. Received a Bronze Star and Purple Heart. He believes that Bush is a war criminal. Rest assured, I am voting for Kerry.

 

No please, try to explain, I'd like to know how listening to a band can promote a whole lifestyle that should make me against Bush.