Tobacco Industry

Jesus fucking christ... :| Hello? Why is everyone againts tobacco? Poor little plant...

TOBACCO FUCKING RULLEZ!
Go smoke a fucking La Paz cigarillo... AWWWW yeah... mmh

 

Those shitty signs are only ruin the pack, wich is normally very beautiful, but whatever; I still dont see why you (not you, mountain man) hate tobacco that much.

 

If a person wants to go out and drink gasoline they should be able to. No one is being misled here, its just another example of people wanting the government to go too far.

 

It's not the tobacco that's bad, it's the cigarettes and the tobacco industry.

 

www.tobaccopapers.com has a few leaked memos from the tobacco industry, and yes, they do have some dirty tactics. Gallaher is a bad tobacco group, and their sheer attitude is enough to make me feel like they need a good kick in the ass.

I don't smoke, and I'm glad my money isn't going towards such an industry.

 

The government shouldn't have the power to destroy a legitimate industry. Prohibition, and now the "war on drugs" are examples of a government bending over to the nation's safety nazis. As for your argument, if taken out of context, I would agree that people should adapt to changing economic circumstances, which is why I support outsourcing, no minimum wage, and free trade. I doubt you do, and I doubt you have any rational reasons for what you say.

-Atlas

 

I don't think the government should have the power to destroy a legitimate industry, either. I also don't think you should assume so much about me.
I'd like to hear your views on no minimum wage. I don't know much about outsourcing and free trade. Maybe you could tell me about those, too?

 

SMOKING CAN KILL YOU


...or something like that. That cracked me up the first time I saw that. I think it's great.

 

its kind of shitty with healthcare in canada, how nonsmokers pay more than they should for the treatments of those who choose to smoke

 

don't be so selfish joe!
Anywayz, i hate this whole anti-smoking thing. It like, wakes up the fascist in individuals. They should put "You fucking smoker asshole" and make a law that tell vendors to throw packs in people's face and tell them "Fuck you" instead of thank you while they're at it.
Plus higher taxes just increase contraband. It makes me laugh when i hear politicians complain that there is contraband and they keep increasing taxes... HELLO! Where's common sense!?

Well i'm not against movements that tell that tobacco is dangerous (it counters T. industries commercial tactics) but things are going to far.
Plus the govts make more than enough money from tobacco to pay for healthcare. If the toll end up on income taxes its because the govt want to keep the money.

 

sorry to bump an old-ass thread, but it seemed tidier than starting a new one. I couldn't seem to find this with online searching.

Does anyone know whether the tobacco companies started modifying their product with unhealthy cancer-causing additives in the not so distant past, rather than always?

people always say that we didn't know the effects of tobacco in the old days, like the early 20th cent, but now we know that they cause cancer. Couldn't it be that the cigs back then were actually much less unhealthy than now? Wouldn't they have figured it out back then that smoking gives you cancer? It just seems to me that modern cigs are much worse than back in the day. Maybe the post wwII era engendered the radical corporate environment we know now, including making cigs more addictive?

 

You got my vote.

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We nonsmokers are gradually winning our rights. In Alberta, Canada, now, smoking is prohibited in all public premises and within three meters of doorways. I happen to be an AA member, and guess who has a high proportion of tobacco addicts? It doesn't bother them that their co-founder, Bill W., died of emphysema.

 

I'm told high schoolers like to collect the pack covers, and it's a big status thing to have the most complete collection around. Well, high schoolers aren't necessarily long on brains, never have been.
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You need to find better sources.

 

That's not winning rights, that's taking away rights of the business owners.

 

The Alberta provincial legislature has in effect decided that the right of the public to clean air is more important than the rights of business owners to allow tobacco smoking on premises. This includes the rights of employees working on these premises to breathe clean air.

Put another way, no businessman operating premises open to the public has a right to pollute, or allow customers or employees to pollute, the workplace's air with noxious fumes.

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People choose where they work and go out for entertainment, they're not forced to go into a bar that allows smoking. Bars really boggle my mind, you can't smoke in them, but here take 7 shots and drive home.

 

This.

 

The bottom line: When you drink, it only goes into your body. You have absolute control. That's not true with cigarettes.

Also, we need to have some consideration for the employees.

 

The employees choose to work there. Of all the job hazards out there I think second hand smoke is among the lowest. If I worked in a bar I'd be more concerned with an angry drunk getting in my face when I cut him off. And when you drink and drive you endanger the lives of everyone. Going out to bar for 3 hours with smoke in it isn't going to alter your health, getting into a head on collision might.