Toronto Coalition Government rally.

Shame on you for supporting a government that closes the doors on women and democracy.

It's a radical idea - I know - imagine 3 parties uniting to form a government, like in other Parliament systems. Canada is not a 2-party state like the USA. We elect representatives into the House of Commons who then form a government. I'm sorry, but that is how it has always been. If you don't like idea of participatory political democracies, then I suggest you petition the Canadian government for a Presidential system.

 

Why did G.G. suspend parliament instead of granting the government to the coalition?

 

...Its a 2 party state now that we dont get to decide over...

 

Where do you get this idea that the coalition represents the majority of canadians? You think that because each of the parties involved are involved that each voter who voted for each of the parties would vote for the coalition? Would you say the same if the Liberals and Conservatives merged?

You voted NDP, not Liberal, and now you think the (ridiculous notion that there is a) general will stays intact? It doesn't.

Want to explain it? Go ahead and explain it. You're not going to convince me until you call another election, or explain away the move to direct democracy from the shite we have now.

 

Because she met with Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who then asked her to prorogue government.

The Governor General has no authority to grant a Coalition government out of thin air. The Government has to be defeated in the Legislature by a vote of Confidence, which Harper said would happen Dec. 8 2008, but again, he lied and went crying to the Governor General to bail him out.

 

But... we did decide. We like, just decided this October what our Parliament would look like. And it looks like whoever has enough to form a majority can ask the GG to form a government. That's how our Parliament has been forming for hundreds of years. This is hardly anything new.

This is the Accord signed between the NDP and Liberals and this is what the Coalition Government would look like:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/v5/content/pdf/1201policy.pdf

 

exactly......adding up all the little votes and bunching them together as one doesnt make a majority

 

You're right. Their economic updates completely missed the mark. I don't think anyone is going to deny that. Majority of people agree. But you walk a very slippery slope in saying that because Harper, half a month ago, had a different public line on the economy that Harper is out of touch. I might start to think that you are out of touch for not seeing this half a year ago!

Seriously, offer me a single defense of property in the first place. We'll go for there. I know the only, and there is only one, basis for property rights, and I know why it doesn't work. I can't think of a better place to start.

No. Nor have we forgotten that Harper has spent more of our money than any pm since pierre la red. Canada can't generate a surplus. We have to generate defecits, we're fucked before we start. Why? Because we have no notion at all about what makes things run. We're concerned with one thing ... our powerlessness. Which is fitting.

No. Because stimulus is bad for the economy.

 

Why do I feel like you are copy and pasting token journalist and government official phrases for your arguments, Aris. I mean it just sounds like a broadcast.

 

K, I'll comment on the bold first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Canada_election

37.65% of people who voted in the last election, voted for the Conservatives. That means, in elementary math terms, that 62.35% of people VOTED FOR THE OTHER PARTIES. So, yes. The other parties do represent the majority of Canadians.

I would say the same thing about any party merging. It's how our Parliament works. We elect representatives to represent our Constituency and give them a seat in Ottawa to pass legislation and form a government. We give them authority to form a government however they want. That's how our system works and has always worked for hundreds of years. Why the outcry all of a sudden? That is our participatory democracy. Would you rather a Plutocracy and have Harper who failed two elections in a row to win the vote of the majority of Canadians? He should resign like Dion. He can't win an election. He can just form a government by default and by pitting the Left parties against one another.

Harper has lost the confidence of the majority of seats in Parliament. Why does he deserve to continue to be Prime Minister if 62% of Canadians never voted for his Party, hm?

I didn't vote NDP. Why are you accusing me of voting NDP? Clearly you're assuming lies to be true here.

 

Thin line? He's an economist. Shouldn't he have known 2 weeks ago that we are in an economic crisis or is it probable that Mr. Harper neglects to read International Headlines?

He is out of touch with the economy because he's done nothing, proposed nothing and led the country into a defecit. Now it's your turn to convince me of the contrary, I urge you please.

The Martin government was able to generate a surplus. Even put part of the surpluses to paying down our national debts. So it's not like a minority government managing a surplus is impossible.

 

Did you even read the Coalition's Accord on the Economy? Their stimulus package is acheivable and geared to help low-to-middle income families save and retain their money.

What can you speculate Harper has under his sweater to present worried Canadians?

 

You can't say that Aristartle. Any more than I can say than I can say that all people in prison were incarcerated for the same thing. The negation of one point does not mean the acceptance of all others. NDP voters did not vote for an NDP Bloc coalition. Liberal voters did not vote for a Liberal Bloc coalition. To say that they are united because they did not vote conservative is not to say only that. The idea that they share a general will because they did not vote conservative, if made, must apply to all parties. Those who voted NDP did not vote conservative, but they also did not vote Liberal, nor Green, nor Bloc. If the G.G. supposed that the coalition was fit to accept governance than it would be the case, but it isn't the case. In fact, it is probably the last of the three available choices.

The outcry is not all of a sudden. The sudden outcry is, literally, the coalition. They do have every right to do what they did. But, at the same time, the G.G. decided a better option for canada was to lock the doors and not let them grab power. Why? We'll wait and see. At least I'll wait and see. You'll run mad in the streets with signs and slogans.

 

It is not a sweater. It is a pullover...YOUR EYES!!! muahahaha

 

I will. Watch what he does next. Don't think for a second he won't have help in your way. Its just a shame that you kids need and take and want. So selfish.

Harper knows what is better for you than you do, it seems. Better yet, you have no right to say what is best for you. Afterall, you voted.

 

I would hope its a big middle finger. I've been waiting for him to do anything other than hurt hurt hurt, but it seems in the nature of government to do anything but.

Legislation of harm has no better guise than economic stimulus.

 

Boreal Forests, First Nations Reserves, Lake Ontario, fresh water.

The ideological right has a knack for selling off our public assets. Crown corporations generate revenue that alleviate the necessity to increase taxation on public citizens. Each time you go to a Canada Post office and buy a stamp, part of that revenue pays for your pensions and health care instead of diverting the money into the deep pockets of Corporate CEOs.

Examples of privatized assets: CN Rail was privatized and became ViaRail, Petro-Canada was sold off to the highest bidder and then shares were also sold off, Air Canada was privatized, and now the move to sell off Bell Canada is on Harper's checklist of quick ways to make a buck.

 

Haha. I assure you that my words are my own. I'm trying to use common language to assert my opinion. No agenda here. Why, what are you wearing?

EDIT: I am very biased in my views. They're hardly official or journalist material. I believe Harper has a hidden agenda, and is a terrible politician.

Did you know that he took lessons on how to smile correctly for the cameras?

He seems like he is always forcing a smile whenever he half cracks one.

 

Didn't answer the question Aristartle.

I propose we get to the bottom of property rights before we even begin to talk about whether or not what the government chooses to do with their 'property' ought to be done or not.

Because as far as I know the right to privacy doesn't really work.