Tripping lost its magic?

take a time off everything.


you'll know if it's time again.

 

Come work here!

 

but i mean really though is it so bad to take psychedelics recreationally? there is really no better buzz, to me anyway, than when you are tripping balls to a good vibe. playing music and jamming out for the duration of a heavy dose trip is probably one of the most exhilerating things that i have ever done. i could easily just see myself tripping and playing music every day for the rest of my life. lol.

and like inthydreams said, eventually you stop learning how to live your life and just live it. i really feel as if i know all the answers to my problems already, it's just a matter of enacting that -- or, if i don't know the answer there is really no reason the problem can't be solved without hallucinogens.

but god. when making music inspired by entheogens... well i have never felt so alive.

maybe this is what i meant when tripping is losing its magic. i've hit a dead end. there is nothing more to learn from tripping that i havn't already learned or can't learn without hallucinogens.

and then there are concerts and festivals. is it really so wrong to trip at a live music performance? that is also quite exhilerating and meaningful.

some interesting thoughts anyway...

 

you are going through the exact same thing i am going through right now. its uncanny. down to the exact day of posting. i word my experience differently but its the same gist.

 

haha. maybe that's because we had so much discourse when we both started taking psychedelics so much. back around the time of your epic acid trip. i've noticed that when you enter into psychedelic realms under certain conditions with certain people then those people tend to end up on the same wavelength as you. we aren't in this alone ya know

the way that my friends act is practically created by my thought patterns. we've tripped together so many times that we are on the same wavelength almost constantly. it's like a mind meld.

 

Its cause were all connected. I have seen the same thing happen to people on this forum all the time. Whenever I'm about to ask a serious question about something, someone always asks it the same day. Then the answers come within that time period. Were all surfing one hell of a crazy wave.

 

Sounds like you've been tripping balls too much. Just take a month off and you'll be fine. Obviously you're not going to trip like when you first started. But I'm sure you'll find some way to enjoy it.

 

well i mean it can still be enjoyable, but just not for the same motives. which is why i was wondering if one should really use psychedelics for motives other than spiritual growth. even though, i guess that living your life is a form of spiritual growth.

 

Maybe psychedelics should be used to help us in what ever way we can. Whether it be physically, psychologically, spiritually, or just because we need a little bit of fun and exploration in our lives to get us motivated. Just be respectful to yourself and the trip, do whats right for you.

 

specifically, what do you think you have learned from tripping?

 

haha. wise words.

i guess, the way to live my life morally, physically, and spiritually. psychedelics taught me what i should do with my life. they gave me inspiration in times of trouble. they freed me from false conceptions about life, and brought to the surface the true essence of my spirit. they pretty much saved my life. but now that my life is saved, i don't need them for that anymore.

 

Wow, Me thinks maybe you are attributing too much to a chemical and failing to realize that the ONLY thing it did was to give you a different perspective on things which were always present.

What you need to do now is foster those perspectives and awareness until they are a part of your everyday waking consciousness.

Funny if someone came in this forum and said the same things you did regarding LSD about Jesus they would probably get jumped all over from a dozen different directions.

 

And rightly so. This IS an LSD forum.

 

thank jesus i'm me, huh?

that's what i'm saying. it gave me a different perspective on what was already there. but it helped me to see it more clearly. now that i can see it more clearly, it just doesn't work the same way for me because all you really need to do is foster those perspective into your consciousness. you don't need hallucinogens to do that.

but i was so far gone before lsd that there was just no way that i would have been able to realise those perspectives without a little push out the door.

 

INCREASE FUCKING DOSE, PUT ON THE FUCKING GRATEFUL DEAD AND LAY THE FUCK DOWN.


Also maybe your doing it too frequently? There needs to be a collection of non tripping information to become tripping information. At one point I was tripping multiple times a week on L. Kept upping dose. I made a thread here about it a couple years ago. Once a week is not too much IMO. But seriously, increase dose. If you able to jam on the peak then I def think you should increase dose big time.

 

You can experience things on LSD you would never experience sober though. I mean experiencing inconceivable multiple dimensions of space and time , Jesus and the guy smoking Dmt are the only people who really experience something like that. Until we make it to Jesus status, we need some psychedelics to enter these realms and these higher states of being.

 

Your certain of this?
How can you be certain of this?
I have experienced awareness that rivals anything a psychedelic could provide as far as insight and revelation are concerned.
I have had "visionary" states that were every bit as beautiful and brimming with significance, actually more so than any CEV's psychedelics have shown me.
Just because you have not personally experienced profound cosmic states of awareness without the aid of drugs does not mean others haven't or don't.

Here is an account of one individual comparing spontaneous "cosmic consciousness" with an LSD induced state.
http://www.paradigm-sys.com/ctt_articles2.cfm?id=19
You should perhaps read some of the other works of Charles T. Tart, he really pioneered modern scientific studies of altered states of awareness.

Here is an account of Ram Dass giving an Indian Guru 1200ugs of LSD and it having no effect at all on him.
http://www.miqel.com/entheogens/neem-karoli-baba-lsd-alpert.html
I read elsewhere that he told Ram Dass that love was a much stronger medicine.

Expand your understanding of states of consciousness and mystical states.
Psychedelics are but a very small part of the overall puzzle.
Don't limit yourself by thinking such states are only accessible through psychedelics, they aren't, actually psychedelics pale in comparison.

 

don't worry brah my problem is solved. but now i'm just questioning the legitimacy of recreational tripping.

but i mean, the peak is when things come together most perfectly in every aspect. idk why i wouldn't be able to do anything during the peak.

 

Hmm, very interesting PB Smith, lovin' the Ram Dass article! I would love to sit with that guru and ask him a thing or two!

 

Tripping when you get older does lose a little something- - but you never lose those wonderful memories