Trump Acquittal Thoughts?

I don’t think Trump is going to win due to the acquittal, I think he’s going to win because the Dems running have all the allure of a wet noodle. You need an Obama or a Bill Clinton to beat Trump.

 

And the DNC still just doesn’t get it.
“If liberals are so fuckin smart why do they lose so goddamn always.”

 

If the people of this country were smart - which they ARE NOT - we'd stop falling for this divisive, name-calling, kiddies-on-the-playground shit and elect people who are going to do what WE want - not set the system up further to keep enriching themselves. The REAL power players at the top must get a big kick out of watching and listening to all of us fighting amongst ourselves - name-calling, pointing fingers, and falling further & further behind pay & benefits-wise, and losing ground every year for our own financial security …………… and they keep getting richer & richer & richer on our stupidity. We keep fighting among ourselves, calling names - and behind the scenes the rich power-players are laughing at us, stacking up more & more billions.

I don't know anyone who doesn't need good health care. Any of us might be diagnosed with something serious or have heart attacks, or have a child with disabilities. How many out there think they can afford $250,000 and up for cancer treatment, open heart surgery, or for kidney transplant, etc.??? Many of the proposed "choices" of health care plans are basic, band-aid plans that won't cover any high cost treatments. Deductibles and out-of-pocket expenses go up every year for Americans. Employers are forcing workers to pick up more & more of the tab - because you know ……….. profits above all else.

The vast majority of Americans are worried about the environment and climate change. World-wide, the science community is screaming that the world's climate is changing at a very rapid pace in the last 100 to 150 years. Most of the other past climate changes took anywhere between 5000 and 20,000 years for such temperature changes, except for cataclysmic volcanic eruptions causing rapid cooling due to ash in the atmosphere. Ocean pollution is a disgrace from MANY sources, which is where the world's people get most of our food - directly or indirectly. The oceans are also the biggest supplier of oxygen for the planet. I'll bet most people don't know that, either. Science. And - more than 1 million acres of rain forest are being cut down every year world-wide ………….. our 2nd biggest supplier of oxygen to the planet. What about all the various places in the U.S. with polluted underground water supplies?? Those toxins aren't caused by Johnny throwing his McDonalds bag out the car window. Those are industrial polluters who cause those things - but ...… "We don't need those stinkin' regulations!!! Big government is ON OUR BACKS!!! " Maybe sometimes big government is protecting our ass. How many out there feel good about what kind of world we're leaving to our kids and grandkids??

Both sides fight & call each other names - (the D & R avg. citizens) - but the REAL power players don't give a shit one way or the other. They can't lose, no matter who's in Washington. How many of OUR avg. citizen lives have gotten better in the last 30 years?? And by how much, compared to the power players who BUY the politicians to write the laws that benefit ONLY THEM???

A billionaire can spend $10,000 EVERY DAY, and it would take him over 300 years to spend it. But WE have to fork out about $5000 to 6000 each year for our health insurance deductibles & out-of-pocket-expenses on avg. these days per family. But the Multi-millionaires and multi-billionaires can't kick in for our health insurance as the employers. Feeling a little nauseous - a bit sick??

Did you ALL get your big profit-sharing bonuses again this year that were promised when the "wonderful new tax law" was passed?? How big of a pay raise did you get?? Those were promised too, because when those nasty corporate taxes were slashed, the huge savings could be passed down in the form of higher pay to workers ………. right??? So ……. did your pay jump by $3000, $4000, $5000, $6000 or more per year?? Executive/owner pay jumped by 33% - so if they were being paid a tiny $1 million per year - they just got a raise of $330,000 !! AND... AND..... they had their income taxes slashed as well. So they have tp pay even less tax on those giant compensation packages!!! The power players make more - pay less taxes - all while our bridges, highways, water & sewer systems crumble. Guess who's picking up the slack??? Look in the mirror.

And ………….. we keep fighting, name-calling, shaking our fists - just like stupid little kids.

 

My question is why does Trump always defend Russia. Even when his own people tell him other wise. The Muller Report did find many crimes that took place. People are in jail or facing trial. There was a proven connection with the elections and Russian involvement. But yet the White House and Trump keeps denying it. And if Trump keeps pushing a lie over and over again people will start to believe it. And that is exactly what he did during the investigations against him . His impeachment, And the Senate trial Now he is joking about extending his term. The only problem with his "jokes" is that he reveals what he truly feels and believes. So do not be shocked if he tries to do such a thing. Regardless of what the law says.

 

that billionaire made his or her money by getting off their asses and building their world the way they want it. anyone can. but to say the rich owe us little people just 'cause they're rich is not gonna cut it. " a man who wanted to be rich went to see the wise man on the mountain . he asked the wise man how do I get to be rich? the wise man took him to the river and grabbed him, pushed his head under the water till he nearly drowned. the man said you almost drowned me. the wise man said what were you thinking about when you were drowning ? the man said I was thinking about living....the wise man said you should have been thinking about making money" . if you want something out of life get off your ass and go get it for yourself

 

NO

 

It rotates around the Earth but it does not rotate on its own axis, thus the dark side.

 

And womens periods synchronize with the moons rotation around the earth. Women I think , rotate the same way. Thus the dark side.

 

Planets and moons revolve around an object
and rotate on their axis (if object in question does, in fact, rotate.)

 

Back to the moon thing again?

 

Most rich people get that way because they have laws and "worker rules" legislated so it make s it much easier to BECOME rich. And they have an ability to bullshit workers into thinking that at some point, this is going to "pay off." For avg. people - it never does. Just like the "$1000" one-time "bonuses" (bones) the workers of this country were thrown after the "wonderful new tax law" was legislated (bought) to basically buy their votes in the next elections. And like the good tin soldiers many people are, they bought that crock of shit. After all those multiple billions of tax savings, how many American workers have seen a significant pay boost??? Not a ONE-TIME $1000 bonus (bribe) but the promised better pay?? (Better pay isn't a 2% or 3% increase either. Not when executives and owners see annual increases of 30% to 100% - which has happened.)

Look at the lying clown P.O.S. that just got canned by Boeing's board of directors (because they HAD to in order to restore the world's confidence in Boeing). He left with over $60 million as a severance package after he oversaw the safety corner-cutting, and refusal to listen to workers and engineers who warned of those safety concerns. But HE WORKED SOOOO MUCH HARDER than all the other Boeing employees, so he's ENTITLED (speaking of "entitlements" as Republicans do so often!! ) to his huge severance package after he did SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB …………… right?? And Carly Fiorina, who just about destroyed Hewlett-Packard when she was running that company - she got booted with a multi-million dollar severance package too ………….. for SUCH A GREAT JOB WELL-DONE !!

I wonder how many Americans know that executive pay packages are negotiated and guaranteed BEFORE they even take those executive positions??? Those "brilliant, hard-working" executives CAN NOT LOSE - even if they run a company into the ground. They STILL get their "golden parachutes" and leave with multiple millions in severance pay packages!!! Even after bone-headed business decisions.

Just who do you think you're bullshitting "onceburned" ???? I'm college educated in a technical field, and I've worked my ass off all my life, putting in loooong hours in my profession. I'm NOT your average dolt. I'm no kid and I've seen first-hand how the system is rigged in favor of a few. Even John Bogle (how many know who he was??) said the financial system is rigged to favor the few - and he was about as inside as they come. That's why corporate "America" hated him - because he spilled the beans and told the truth.

Those billionaires & multi-millionaires find talent and delegate the responsibilities to those "underlings" while they lobby members of congress to write tax laws and other laws to streamline their way to untold riches. They work their asses off improving their golf games - that's for sure!! How many of those billionaires actually came up with an idea and built a company from scratch?? Most just take over something that someone else started, built, and they just take over the executive chairs. There aren't many Bill Gates's or Steve Jobs's around.

So, "onceburned" - keep trying to bullshit the folks who don't understand how things REALLY work in the U.S. There's a huge supply of drug-addled, dead-brained, non-thinking, non-seeing gullibles out there.

 

MeAgain - Just for clarity's sake, Andrew Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller were utterly ruthless in their treatment of their workers. They were in a head-to-head battle to see who would be the richest, most powerful man in the U.S. at that time. Neither man was fair toward workers during their lives. Each forced workers to labor in unsafe, dangerous conditions for very meager pay. When the workers had the audacity to stand up for them selves, organize, and strike against those conditions - they were shot and killed by company-hired henchmen.

Only after Carnegie and Rockefeller died and had no further use of their money was much of it given to charitable causes. Carnegie said "A man who dies rich, dies disgraced" so when he knew he was near death, he willed some of his money to charity. It wasn't a charitable sacrifice they made while healthy & alive. Neither man could have cared less for their workers.

 

Finally I'll join this thread. Trump getting acquitted was no surprise, it's what I expected. One thing (I hope) the impeachment hearings accomplished was to underscore the need to vote Orange Julius Caesar out of office along with as many of his Republican cronies as we can come November. Yes the election is still nine months away but people aren't going to forget that he was impeached and was acquitted by a partisan Senate that wouldn't allow witnesses or evidence. Plus he's likely to fuck something else up before the election and lose voter confidence further.

But who can beat him? I'm not overly impressed with the field of Dem candidates. I think Bloomberg has a shot at beating him and his poll numbers are rising. No I don't like the idea of another billionaire taking office but at least he's a self-made billionaire. He claims he's not concerned with making more money as he has no need to, just wants to fix the country. Sure I have my doubts but I'm willing to give him a shot at it. Of course, I'm on the Anyone-But-Trump Bandwagon.

 

The flaw in this plan is thinking you can vote someone out of office. In a regular election (not a recall) all you can do is vote for someone. You can't log an "against" vote. There are no down votes, only up. Which is why a character like Ross Perot was able to siphon votes away from Bush 1 and hand the election to Clinton.

Unfortunately the democrats have not switched from infighting mode to unifying behind a candidate to win the election. Their support is fractured and if Bernie is forced to take another dive, a lot of voters will stay home. It has happened before.

 

scratcho, you are missing the point. "Russia conspiracy" refers to the Trump campaign conspiring with Russian entities to influence the US election. Bogus claims along those lines, paid for by the DNC, and abusing the FISA court in the process, were used to spy on American citizens. That is what team Obama, with the FBI's help, did, and I suspect Obama was not an innocent bystander. Talk about an abuse of power! But to Democrats, nothing to see there, move along.

It is widely accepted that the Russians used social media to influence the 2016 US election. But that's not what the "Russia conspiracy" refers to.

 

Your logic is vague. A vote for Trump's opponent is a vote against Trump. And hopefully once a Democratic candidate has been chosen the rest of the Dems will unify behind him or her.

 

I do wish there were a "none of the above" option.