Trump is not racist: Change my mind

That's what it was, I wasn't calling you names, just the list. They surely weren't the work of the hard right. And there was certainly nothing centrist about their delivery either. So how would you prefer to characterize their slant? Soft left?

 

Left would suffice i think. But it doesn't matter much if you don't read the actual sources

What do you think about these characterisations:

 

Let's try another approach
What specifically in those sources is untrue?

 

You know that never works... Right?

 

That's code for racist. Just so you know.

 

You like to write, an admirable quality.

 

Ultimately, I don't buy MOST of the claims about selected people being "racists" simply because it has become the default accusation for anyone who doesn't agree with someone else's dogma regardless of their actual nature or intent. Seriously folks, the race issue is NOT as prolific as the media that is spoon feeding it to us is making it out to be. And it takes a substantial effort to step outside of the mania and realize that NO, the KKK is not having a renaissance. And NO, there's not a racist in every republican congressional seat (assuming so though, is itself pure racism).

For a while now I've made fun of this, but the race angle is being played daily now by not only the press, but by far too many democrats. It's a political ploy that most of the educated here should see through readily. What I don't get is why a site like this is being suckered into the party bullshit. Do we really care who is in charge? Neither side is doing shit for hippies. Can we possibly ditch the fanatical adherence to a party and realize what we actually have in common?

Or do we just like to argue and political affiliation makes that oh so easy?

Since the 70s I have seen neither party address any of our issues in real terms. Even pollution was hijacked into the nebulous "global warming/cooling/warming" scam geared toward cashing in with penalties.

 

Yea, but I still don't think Trump is a genuine racist. I think so many in the media "hate" him that they'll grab any straw as "proof". It's only so much foolishness as far as I can tell. Playing to the lowest common denominator, as the press has proven over and over . They want clicks/ad space, so the "truth" is a matter of what they can create that enough people will click on.

If we REALLY had a Nazi/White supremacist problem in the US, I fear that Hip Forums as well as all the sites you have referenced, would no longer exist (or could otherwise not be accessed in the US). Seriously, if we really had this nazi problem that you and a few others are trying to sell to me so openly, do you honestly think they'd tolerate your message? Come on with this already. You KNOW it's bullshit.

If it was real, I'd expect a bullet for myself already from the nazis. They surely know I don't buy their shit.

So, where the hell are they? The list you present is a feeble bunch of malcontents with zero actual power or influence.

Quit playing games already.

 

The Nazis are marching in the streets. Real live people still vastly outnumber them, but Trump is making their rhetoric more palatable. Because he's making a lack of general concern for other people more palatable. Maybe it is a little racist to just not give a damn about minorities, but he doesn't even give a damn about his base. He's just a ringleader at a circus and all he cares about is his brand. The alt-right and neo Nazis feed off of his apathy.

 

It should be obvious that I was speaking in general, exempting no one. That's the part you demonstrated that you misunderstood because you asked me if I thought it applied to one particular case.

 

LMFACO!!!!
Whew!

 

A tired old argument

By that kind of logic, If someone calls themself a neo nazi and donates $5 to Trumps campaign, that makes Trump a rascist

 

They support him because his agenda primarily favors white people. He mainly favors the rich and those already with a leg up in society, which happens to be white America. His base are just bottom feeders and those who see this agenda as being conducive to their white supremacist points of view. So yeah, he is kind of racist by association.

What do you think happens when you call black people's ancestral homes shitholes, discriminate against Mexicans, and try to ban Muslims? It speaks to everything racists are all about, even though he probably just wants America to be a great place for rich people of any color.

 

I wont refute that 1973 suit now, surprised it specified one particular race

But I still dont think it isnt more about corporate greed than racism

Looking over those FBI documents, testimony from the testers, doesnt seem to be the case they were flat out rejected most of the time, as opposed to being directed to apartments in black neighbourhood, which sounds more likely for landlords wanting to make money

I think most people will read that, think, meh, it was the early 70s, stuff like that was happening everywhere.

Its not the smoking gun it maybe should be, if it was it would have made a greater impact on Trump already

 

It's so easy to be seduced by the Donald as well. To take his self-love and try and turn it into positive self-love for yourself. And then spew all this bullshit about how "at least he's honest." People don't even know what honesty is anymore. It's about doing the right thing and having principal. Not just outwardly expressing non-politically correct points of view. He doesn't say what we're all thinking. He says what stupid people are thinking.

 

People don't know what honesty is anymore?

And all thanks to Donald Trump?