UPDATE: JULIAN ASSANGE Freed!

I'm Highly skeptical that the masses in the U.S would ever wake up, The mainstream media has way to much pull... In Wikileaks case its worse yet since its not just one source but nearly all sources are condemning Assange.

And it doesn't even matter what material is in it, Cause if its actually anything vital the mainstream will not touch it at all. and will sit there and pick off just the junk and make it out like its a travesty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do3ZtMJEwLw&feature=related"]YouTube - Fox News anchor comes clean on Ron Paul bias.

 

Thanks for that man, signed and shared on facebook (which I just find extremely humorous... lol)

Oh yeah, and it was up to like 365k when I posted this.

 

That bothers me... It makes it sound like the media is in control, which is something that is suggested a lot...

The media is NOT in charge... The government is not in charge...

We, each one of us, is in charge...

When people say things like "the government is doing ....Insert whatever" they are trying to escape their own responsibility in letting the government do whatever it is....

I actually thought this issue was going to make me feel better about people as a whole... after all, if there is any place that you would think that people would actually care about freedom of speech, it would be here at hipforums...

The majority here still haven't even noticed what is going on... out of those that do, many of them have joined in with the governments dis-information campaign against Julian... Out of the handful that are left that have noticed, and at heart agree with what he is doing, most are still letting themselves be distracted by bullshit...

People wake up? I'll put money on the fact that they won't do so, until they are in chains and gagged, at which point they will be all shocked and hurt that it happened and whine some more about how its everyone's fault but their own...

 

Pinochet was an old man who was suffering from ill health. There isn't much you can do to punish people who are on their last legs.

What I don't get in all of this is this. Assange has broken the law by publishing confidential information, I would have thought that would have given them enough power to haul his ass into custody somewhere.

 

Come back to hipforums probably.

 

thats what BP said when they got that terrorist who was supposedly dieing of cancer out of prison so that they could strike an oil deal with libya

 

That is what is at the heart of all of this. Publishing is protected in most western countries. The major mainstream media outlets publish classified stuff all the time... in fact, getting a scoop on such things that point to courruption in the government is like the holy grail to them.

The only laws that were broken were broken by the person (or persons) who stole the information in the first place.

There are laws they can TRY to charge him under, such as espionage and the like, but it would be a hard argument to make without claiming that The Washington Post, NY times and others are guilty of the same thing.

As for the 'somewhere' part... it MUST be in the US... they are the US's documents...

 

Even so, I doubt that the U.S. would have criminal jurisdiction over him if they sought to prosecute him.

 

When has that ever stopped the US?

If they want him and can't do it legally, they will do it illegally.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRm98gFaXgM&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - A Letter from Anonymous: Our Message, Intentions, and Potential Targets

 

That made me smile...

I don't know about anyone else, but when I hear Citizens of the World, it makes me feel really good.

 

You know, that's pretty much what his apologists Thatcher and Bush snr. said too. So if you can just get away with it for long enough, that allows you immunity ? Like a kind of old age pension or something ?

Go tell that to the Nazi hunters !

So by definition Assange should be banged up, even executed [as some would have it] because he's still young ?

 

i wonder if the condom companies are all fearing the release of the brand name that broke?

 

So what do we do then, lock him up in a hospital?

Do you think it will make any difference?

It's not the same thing as Assange, stop being a putz.

 

right, people who make the argument that he's being irresponsible and putting peoples' lives in danger by publishing certain documents really don't have a leg to stand on. Journalists have always written about and published classified documents. If its obtainable then its legal to publish. I think the public is so used to journalists that are basically owned by media corporations that people have forgotten what free speech actually is. that makes me a little sad.

 

I've been waiting for this.

 

It reminds me of a cheating spouse blaming the person who caught them cheating and told their spouse about it for the damage to their marriage.

 

I think the how is dependant upon the comfort level of the herd. As long as people are comfortable they really have no reason to question anything. Class warfare and revolutions are generally born out of a large population of people living in poverty. Mainstream America is just too comfortable to give a shit.

 

Well, that an the opposite side of the argument. What about the politicians and governments who are potentially putting the peoples' lives in danger by withholding certain information from us? It works two ways. We have a right to know about the things that affect and dictate our lives.

 

precisely. If a certain event staged by the government or a certain exchange between two government officials puts a life in danger, the responsibility goes to the government. I like the cheating spouse analogy; at the end of the day the spouse still cheated, whether or not the partner finds out. The partner's knowledge or lack thereof does not change the immorality of the act.