UPDATE: JULIAN ASSANGE Freed!

Discussion in 'Latest Hip News Stories' started by skip, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. Mellow Yellow

    Mellow Yellow Electrical Banana

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    At least the motive is clear:

    What disturbs me is the nature of the information diplomats were gathering about UN officials and the motive behind it. You get that kind of personal information on someone and you've got total control over them, undermining their capacity for diplomacy.
     
  2. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    That's part of the gamesmanship that goes on with 'diplomacy'. It's sometimes a front for spying or some other ulterior motive. How many times have we seen a group of 'diplomats' getting ejected by a country on accusations of spying. The other country usually expels its 'diplomats' in retaliation.

    It's much like other forms of spying that go on between two countries. Each one knows the other is doing it. It's a game of which side can harvest valid information the best and confuse the other side with false information or screw them up without them knowing it using some other type of tactic.

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  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    That requires many threads, not one, and that is what is being done now, but they're not stickies.

    I have considered making a Wikileaks news forum where we can keep track of all the related threads, but I haven't decided to do that yet.
     
  4. Nyxx

    Nyxx HELLO STALKER

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    Wow Skip that is a great idea... :sunny:
     
  5. lillallyloukins

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    yes! :) it would be much easier to keep a track of developments... :2thumbsup:
     
  6. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    I agree. Heck, what can the authorities do to us? Not much they can do to Julian.
     
  7. crackerboxpalace

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    Has anyone noticed that the Wikileaks story has gone pretty quiet in mainstream media lately (at least in Australia anyway). I wonder if this is a symptom of the 24 hour news cycle or is there pressure coming from somewhere to keep it out of the news.

    Just thinking out loud really.
     
  8. odon

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    I think it is partly due to the 24 hour news cycle and partly due the majority of the headline grabbing leaks being printed already.
    It'll be pushed back into view when another batch of material is released (I doubt it will be till Julian is freed).
     
  9. rollingalong

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    the christmas season kinda overtakes all the stories...people dont want to watch real news during such a fake season is my guess...even the bomber on xmas day only got a few minutes and 45 people died!
     
  10. shaggie

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    Yeah. Stories like those spoil people's holiday festivities.

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  11. ChronicTom

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    The Guardian has been keeping track of the releases on a day to day basis;

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-embassy-cables-key-points
     
  12. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    So rather than having to check wikileaks all the time we can all just carry on buying the guardian everyday as normal then?

    I for one certainly need my daily dose of government lies and corruption to come from somewhere, albeit the internet, a newspaper or my horribly deluded and paranoid mind. It gives me reason to hate the world, which quite honestly deserves to be hated, or I quite often like doing the cryptic crossword as well.
     
  13. ChronicTom

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    I assumed the intelligent ones among us would look at the link... Those who would see it and run out and buy a paper to try to find the same thing.... Well, they are far beyond my help.

    It is another source of information, some people think those are good things... Even though they do require some thought on our own part to decipher through the crap in each.
     
  14. Nyxx

    Nyxx HELLO STALKER

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    Just another example of "attention span of a toddler" syndrome, which mass media and it's consumers just fucking love! Because you know, it is more important to talk about the Kardashians than you know, shit that impacts your life.

    Maybe I have it all wrong. Maybe the Kardashians are impacting my life, NOT goverment corruption. :afro:
     
  15. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Lets just be honest, there was always going to be a point when this story was going to lose momentum.
    I only see news about the Kardashian on ENTERTAINMENT news not on regular news.

    We all have short attention spans, tbh.
    I don't see regular threads about the starving in Africa or the social and economic difficulties in South Wales on a regular basis, do you?
    Yeah, this story is important to you and you can find continuing information on it.
    The news moves on and other things are more prominent - that's life.
    I think it unfair to say that this story is being overtaken by stories about the Kardashians.
     
  16. dirtydog

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    We could send the unemployed of South Wales to Africa, but I doubt the starving Africans would put up with them. I suspect "Kardashians" are fictitious, like starving Somali pirates.
     
  17. shaggie

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  18. Mellow Yellow

    Mellow Yellow Electrical Banana

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    You're right of course. I meant that comment rhetorically more than anything, the concern being that by spying on UN officials we lose our credibility, and diplomacy then becomes meaningless. Then again, we've already lost our credibility, so maybe if our officials are afraid of being exposed by Wikileaks they'll clean up their act.
     
  19. Nyxx

    Nyxx HELLO STALKER

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    All the reports of Karl Rove's involvement with the Swedish goverment is disturbing. Karl Rove really needs to fucking go away...forever.
     

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