US Ready for War with Iran - Sabres Rattling!

Discussion in 'Latest Hip News Stories' started by skip, Nov 7, 2010.

  1. euphoriaforall

    euphoriaforall Member

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    They wouldnt even have the technology if the people didnt work in the factories putting together the weapons, ammo, equipment, not to mention printing the money.
     
  2. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    The US military is not supposed to be used for suppressing domestic dissent, although it has been used for that in the past (Chicago 1968 and other places). And now with the Patriot Act and other legislation they can take to US streets in force to put down any rebellion.

    But they won't be protecting the "country", they will be protecting the government ONLY! And anyone in their way will become dead meat. This is why there is no longer any organized domestic resistance to the US gov't cause BIG BROTHER SEES all...

    One thing that can be done is STRIKE! If the workers of America go on strike, they can paralyze the infrastructure and make it difficult for our gov't to conduct a war that NOBODY wants except the ELITE.
     
  3. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Sloppy proportions. I don't think the US military is all that. Undoubtedly they can apply a great deal of kinetic energy, but rise and fall are perpetual, that is storms come and go but metabolism demands 100% mortality.
     
  4. euphoriaforall

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    Big brother can see but not know. what about "anonymous". They seem to be succesful. Big brother is an illusion. Only powerful as long as you let him be powerful.
     
  5. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I didn't mean nukes. Also, they have supplies of those things ahead of time. Bottom line, the government would win, the government always wins.

    That's what I meant. The government doesn't give a shit if the military doesn't protect people, look at 9/11. They just want the military to protect them.

    Also, who needs the military to fight the people when we have cops like this?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVIYkrQIqwg"]YouTube - G20 Toronto Collected Scenes of Police Brutality
     
  6. euphoriaforall

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    All the more reason to fight, and die Lunar. Id rather die a free man than live a slave.
     
  7. skip

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    I'm thinking if the gov't wants to go to war, and the people Strike to prevent it, the gov't would respond by declaring Martial Law in the US, so they would have the authority not just to suppress domestic dissent, but to SHOOT ON SIGHT at anyone who might represent an opposing view or force.
     
  8. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    If it is a matter of a competition for resources, this is true.
    They have nothing I want.
     
  9. euphoriaforall

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    This is all the more reason for people to fight. Imagine a person born in antarctica able to do whatever they want, than move here, and be told to pay for being a live, not able to say or do anything you want, and if you say no you get taken.
     
  10. euphoriaforall

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    Maybe i am just young, rebellious, and naive. Or maybe i just see the world through different eyes. Its your choice. But i do know one thing, Freedom isnt this.
     
  11. Amoureux

    Amoureux Banned

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    Cival war won't happpen. You're neighbour would call the FBI on you before you could get to the first meeting. You would then be tried as a terrorist.

    Besides it takes money to fight a war. And that is the reason that all wars are started by one group of rich assholes wanting something that another group of rich assholes have.

    All the more reason to leave the cities and go live in the wild.
    Gather a small community of friends and head into the wild. A forest can feed you and put clothes on you better than a city.
     
  12. zombiewolf

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    Skip, Yes, a general strike. It's a pretty big wish though...

    ZW
     
  13. ChronicTom

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    I really don't think what these senators view as happening in an attack on Iran is even close to what would happen...

    It would likely be remembered for a very long time as the final fatal mistake of the US...

    To start with, I think Iran had nukes long before they ever started pushing this issue... I also think they really want an opportunity to use them as a demonstration somewhere.

    ALL of the terrorists 'plots' and trial runs and previous attacks (911 and such) are nothing but educational experiences for them as they sit back and watch...

    All the satellites, missile defense systems, even border security means little if a weapon (or more then one) is already sitting in the middle of the cities.

    For 30 years Iran has been 'isolated' because of the US, you can be sure that there wasn't a day that went by that they didn't remember this... All these security systems and such, have only been in place for 10 years...
     
  14. skip

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    If people want to stop this war they need to start protesting and contacting congress now. Get one step ahead of the propaganda machine which is just gearing up.

    People might want to start by demanding the return of Olbermann and other independent media voices so people can hear other sides than the propaganda. Or just abandon MSM altogether. They're just going to spin another feartastic fantasy.

    Meanwhile we have Iran completely surrounded with half our military all in the Middle East ready for the mission to begin. And what will be standard by which the US decides such a war is over?

    How many bombs must they drop?
    How much infrastructure must they decimate?

    How many Iranians must die before the American people will say STOP?

    How many Americans must die before the American people will say STOP?

    How far does the escalation have to go?

    How many other countries must Americans rain down death upon?

    Syria? Lebanon? Gaza?

    Where does it all end?

    It won't end until it comes home.

    One way or another America's karma is coming home.

    More debt, more poverty, cuts in social programs, hunger, homelessness, joblessness, unaffordable health care.

    These are the sure signs of a society in RUINS. And its going to get worse.

    Don't even need to worry about terrorists. Our own gov't is doing such a great job terrorizing its own citizens!

    Yes folks, the future is here now. Enjoy it while you still can.

    When the Elite are done plundering us (nearly done!), they must find other countries to plunder.

    It's the only way they stay on top!
     
  15. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    War means spending


    On an individual basis, a peaceful Iranian family who having nothing to do with the military or regime getting blown to smithereens in a bomb attack is bullshit, so unfair

    But in terms of the big picture a US vs Iran war will help the economies of the dozen or so countries involved

    Should we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, hell no, right or wrong at the moment, we stick around 50 years help them build stuff, helps our economies, helps theirs, 50 years later they have better infrastructure and better overall standard of living

    Big picture, whats really wrong is metaphorically raping their countries for our own short term economic needs, then taking off to leave them to clean up the mess, denying the opportunity for both sides to gain in the economic benefits of rebuilding....or pretty much also raping ourselves by not sticking around
     
  16. ChronicTom

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    So your theory is that when two wars result in an economic turn down, start a third and all will be better?
     
  17. skip

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    LOL! I hear Hitler had lotsa luck with that strategy...

    Rome too...

    And so many others.

    They never learn, but they always profit.

    Actually, the point when the economic downturn accelerates is when the wars are as good as LOST, and the society crumbles.
     
  18. skip

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    And how would YOU feel if the Chinese did exactly that to economically depressed USA? Invade us, decimate our infrastructure, forced to allow Chinese business to run everything profitable in our country, and we work for less than Chinese get paid.

    That's what you're askin' for!

    Maybe then we can get FAST NEW HISpeed trains like the Chinese have!

    Maybe then we can restart our Space Program, like the Chinese have!

    Maybe then we can restart our factories and go back to work like the Chinese do!

    Maybe then we can produce more than we consume like the Chinese do!

    Maybe then we can see rising wages like the Chinese do!

    Maybe then America will look further into the future than next quarter with Five Year plans like the Chinese have!

    Maybe America will learn to save money and not be reckless with it, just like the Chinese do!

    Oh, but America's supposed to be the greatest country on Earth? How can the Chinese teach us all this?

    Maybe Americans should become good communists like the Chinese!
     
  19. samson

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    I see you have it all figured out, but if yall dont mind, I will check back in a few months and see if the war happens before giving my two cents as to why and how.

    The anti american sentiment is palpable in here, and its surprising how intelligent people can look like fools when they start speculating on media reports. Dont forget that these journalists have agendas too, its not just the government thats biased!

    its funny that this sentiment prevails here but not enough anywhere else, and god forbid anyone suggest that this isnt the way it is or get flamed. This has become an offshoot of the politics/america attacks forum and has almost nothing to do with news! As soon as there is a post in the news forum that is actually informative, be assured that I will applaud it. But that hasnt happened yet....
     
  20. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    A good country?

    It isn't as backwards as most of the US thinks.

    But it's not for lack of trying.

    That doesn't mean we should be at war with them, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
     

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