US soldier throws puppy off cliff in Iraq (video)

so in the spirit of free speech

tell me sir ,what your opinion is of the iraq war?

 

even when you're taking a shit, you're using a toilet that was transported by a truck

As I've pointed out several times in this thread, I don't have a problem with using natural resources. Deliberately wasting them is not the same thing, I think you'll agree.

thats world wide not in the U.S...

That's what I said the first time, and you said it wasn't true. People, not Americans. The president says it's a major worldwide problem, and that "tur" is a very large threat to the whole world, so we've tested that assertion with basic math and found republicans to be, well, just a bunch of lying widestancers.

Besides, the victims of the 9/11 attack were from at least 80 different countries, though I believe more than half were Americans. The numbers just don't compare with most other human problems and issues.

if we banned chairs we could essentially stop many 9/11 every year!

I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about using resources in a cost-effective way, rather than throwing literally trillions of dollars, more than eleven billion man-hours of labor, and more than a hundred thousand corpses (or do we make it four thousand, since "furriners" aren't people too?) so far at a problem that's trivial compared with larger problems that could certainly be solved with such a commitment of resources.

what about cars... lets ban those too...

You're trying to pull the old "so in other words" trick. No, not other words. My words. I haven't suggested banning cars or SUVs, but at least use your brain when making decisions on the use of resources.

we could save so many! trying to present worldwide stats to diminish a tragedy is really just an insult to what happened on 9/11

As I've pointed out, the 9/11 attack killed a trivially small number of people compared with other things that could be resolved at a reasonable cost.

 

there are some stuuuuuuuuuuupid people on this thread.


Yes, what that one, single, individual soldier did was very wrong dear.

But when you start going into rants attacking the entire US military, while you live in the US, your just going to sound like an idiot. It's like a bodyguard taking a bullet for you, and then you kick him in the face.

The war is wrong. We shouldn't be in Iraq. But i guarantee you that pretty much all of our men and women serving dont want to be there either, and feel the same way you do. You know the difference between you and they? They still have to be over there regardless of how they feel. It's their job for whatever reason, and you should be damned thankful that they do it, and support them.

Im not saying the war is right. But goddamn. At least show some respect for these people.

 

If it had killed just one person, it would not have been trivial. There was nothing trivial about it. Why are you comparing how many people died in the attack, with how many people died from cancer that day? does it matter?

It was senseless death and violence, many people lost their lives left spouses, children, and families behind, and even today mothers and fathers woke up and cried because their son or daughter is gone forever.

Nothing "trivial" about it.

 

so... everyone else is "stupid" except for you... because their opinion is different. Nice.
We shouldn't be in iraq; you agree with that. Yet people, even those who don't agree with the war either, still sign up? What the hell is that going to solve??? When is it a good idea to sell your soul to the government? They may have been misled to believe they're protecting us, but really they're just terrorising others. Where is the logic? I have little respect for anyone who joins the military because it means either
1. They support the war in iraq.
2. they support war and violence.
3. They support the Bush Administration.
4. it seems like a good idea to put their life on the line so Bush can light his cigars with hundred dollar bills.

 

I have said no such thing. However, you should reflect on how you put words in people's mouths. it's a very "stupid" thing to do.

I have advocated no such thing. signing up to fight a war is one thing, but already having a life in the military and then being called upon to serve is quite another.

never. I wasn't aware that the government purchases souls.

if they are being mislead, should you verbally assualt the servicemen, or the politicians who mislead them? hmmmm.....

Where is YOUR logic?

then your a fool.

so i guess you have polled all servicemen, and these were the only 4 answers you got on why they are in the military?
please.
grow up.

People have families to raise, children to feed, debt to settle, and tuition and bills to pay.
Some people choose to settle these matters by flipping burgers or washing dishes. Others' choose to participate in something that has existed as long as this country has, something that is larger than themselves, and something that stands for honor and protection. If it wasn't for the military, our country wouldn't even exist, your liberties wouldn't exist, and you would be executed for being so outspoken.

Throwing a dog off a cliff is horrible. That guy is so wrong in every way shape and form and should be severly punished. In addition, this war should never have happened. However, if you cant appreciate the sacrifice people in the military make for you every single day, then your a spoiled brat. period.

 

Id much rather flip burgers than be a slave to the government, to be a killing machine. What is it their sacrificing? and for what reason? There is no good reason... people need to wake up and realize that... people who join obviously do not.

 

okay you can flip burgers and be a corporate slave, or defend your country and your freedom in the military, you're 19yrs old and obviously have never even thought of the possibility of your home being bomb or invaded, and you take it for granted

 

lol.

but acga! being a corporate slave is SO much better than being a government slave!

 

well I don't agree that being in the military is slavery

 

^sarcasm^

 

What exactly do you think would happen to a country with no military?

Contrary to popular belief, life IS NOT a disney movie.....

 

sorry i left my sarcasm detector in the car

 

The military were the only ones who actually understood the consequences of invading Iraq. The generals who said that it would take more troops were ignored. Their concerns were trivialized, and Rummy sent in the troops.

The problems in Iraq were created by the fucking idiot politicians that civilians voted into office. We're the ones that betrayed the military.

Blaming the soldiers for Iraq is like blaming a automobile driver for global warming.

 

And what would you say the reasons were for those who joined during the Clinton years? What were their reasons??

 

I believe a lot of naive people are brainwashed into joining the military because they think they'll be "defending out country" and all that rot... no, you'll just be shipped to another country, to torment people and take over their country.

 

lol, corporate slave? Sorry, I may need a job, but i'm there strictly for the money... you think any of the people who work in fast food actually listen to their bs, or follow their rules? I'd much rather be paid to fuck around than to throw my life away.

 

Once again, rather than coming up with decent arguments for your opinion, you chose to sink down to petty insults and rudeness. Have I insulted you? no. Yet you've wasted no time to try to press your own insecurities on me.
"How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours."

 

yes. otherwise they would be out of a job.

Im starting to wonder if you are really 19 or not.

 

Actually, I've provided more than ample arguments for my opinions, in conjunction with pointing out very obvious and immature flaws in yours.

Did I sink to insults? Sorry if you think my adjectives are harsh, but if I am not to call a fool a fool, then what shall I call him?