Victim Blaming

Discussion in 'Mental Health' started by Burnt, Oct 6, 2014.

  1. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Flaw in your thinking that will upset that assignment... This site is not 100% "hippies". I doubt very much it's even 50%.
     
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  2. Meliai

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    exactly what I was going to say. This site doesn't really have much of a hippie vibe at all anymore in regards to the opinions and personalities of most of its active members.
     
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  3. Annwyn'Bri

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    There are still a few of us around... I just wonder how many of the others are keeping quiet...
     
  4. Spectacles

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    I was thinking more like 10% and even that could be an exaggeration.
     
  5. Annwyn'Bri

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    Just because they aren't posting, it doesn't mean they aren't here.

    It's also been my experience that people see what they want to see, so maybe you just aren't noticing "us hippies"....
     
  6. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    This
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    How many that come here to seek "advice" are just trolling for attention, or do the ole bait and switch, or will never bother going to a health care professional because they know full well they will be caught out

    How many times do they come here to test public opinion to see if some little scheme is going to work with the majority

    With Age doesnt come wisdom, lets face it we all get dumber and slower, but with age does come cyniscism. Way too many times have I seen those pulling the victim card just milk it to get special treatment, money or avoid having to get off their ass.

    Its usually the ones that whine and throw tantrums the most, that are the most selfish. Those used to dealing with real problems tend to be used to it and get on with it with less complaining


    And the logic for the rest of us is supposed to be, well if you dont do a bunch of stuff for people more vocal and whiney with largely first world problems, who wont give a shit about your problems or even ask......then you are evil, or as the OP said de-evolved.

    But if you let yourself get walked all over and be dumb enough to be a sucker, you can "accomplish something grand"
     
  7. scratcho

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    I haz me sum wizdum.
     
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  8. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    When I am faced with a dilemma I learned that it's wise to look at myself before looking at others for the cause. Did I get fired from a job? Ok, what is it *I* did to cause that?

    though comparing the victim status in the employment field is much harder when dealing with criminal issues. It is ludicrous for a woman (or a man for that matter) that has been raped to start questioning "what is it I did to provoke this?" or "What is it I did to cause this?", because sometimes shit happens and we have done nothing to provoke it or deserve it. In times like that don't even bother trying to figure out why it happened. It happened, so now just hunt the perv down and execute them. With that aside....

    Emptybreath, it's good to see that you're back. You have a good point. In the instance of dealing with bullies, yes you sometimes have to stand up and tell them to back the fuck down. And even may have to punch a few of the numbnuts before they figure out it's wrong. That's not just here. It's everywhere. Just that in some forums it is more welcome than in others. And the perception of bullying has changed a lot as well. What I used to do between myself and friends is now forbidden. Give a friend a hard time about not finding any women to date, and now you're doomed to the Pits of Ultimate Darkness if you get them an inflatable sheep for shits & grins.

    It's not just here Emptybreath. It's everywhere.
     
  9. Comfortablynumb11

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    Well why is there a section on this site specifically for it than? Of course it is the internet so it is unreasonable to expect that you'll never get a nasty response for a post, but it would be nice if people had some common decency and would either offer help/support for threads in such a section and or simply not post if they cannot do that. I do not think it is entirely a horrible idea, though it is good to be prepared for the worse so its not an entire shock when someone gives a cruel, ignorant response.
     
  10. Comfortablynumb11

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    uhh...screwed up my post.
     
  11. Comfortablynumb11

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    The problem with all this is there probably are people that what you say would certianly apply to. However I really don't think one can make all those judgments about someone over the internet. For instance in real life I will almost flat out refuse to talk about my problems or even admit if I am feeling like absolute sh*t but I will sometimes discuss such things online.......someone could say 'oh you whine all the time and should just get over it bla, bla, bla' which in the context of actual living of life that is not the case. A good way to make an ass out of ones self is to think they are an expert on another person over the internet and in some position to accurately 'psycho-analyze' them. Also how about you tell us how many are coming here just trolling for attention or faking and afraid of being called out by professionals or playing the victim card as you are clearly the expert here. What happens when you assume all this stuff about a poster and it turned out it was wrong assumptions, well then as I mentioned earlier you'd effectively make an ass out of yourself.

    And no the logic for the rest of you is supposed to be, don't go out of your way to kick people while they are down....or assume everyones problems are some petty 'first world' sh*t, if someone posts that they are struggling with depression for instance and so you start tearing them down about how they are playing the victim, and should just try harder and essentially act like a jerk then yeah that is rather devolved behavior on your part.
     
  12. Annwyn'Bri

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    Just because someone comes on a site like this asking for advice or posts a question or comment that someone else might consider strange, doesn't mean they are a troll or attention seeker. It might just mean they are scared, confused, conflicted, or a thousand other feelings.

    Not everyone has had good experiences with mental health care or they have been taught that seeking that kind of help is wrong, weak or evil. Just because "you" (whomever you are) feel one way about anything, it doesn't mean you are right about it all, especially for everyone else. Your believes, needs and opinions only apply to one person, yourself.

    People ask for thoughts and opinions to help themselves clarify what it is they are looking for. I doubt most of them are looking for answers based on stranger's opinions, although some might indeed being looking for an easy fix. They will learn eventually that this never works. They might need to learn that the hard way. And I doubt that anyone ever learns from someone else's example or experience. But!! They just might get some insight to which direction and path they could take by reading other people's stories.
     
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  13. AmericanTerrorist

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    I agree with this (op) in many, many ways... (although I certainly do not think this is anything NEW on this forum...)

    So, in most cases, yes. But also...some people do make themselves victims over and over again and sometimes it can help those people to be tough to them ....esp. after many times.

    Also, some people are likely trying to give advice when they tell people ways to get over things. Maybe things that worked for them in similar situations.

    Other than that, I agree.
     

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