Violent revolution

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I'd say ''swings and rounabouts'' but I get your point.

We have incapacity benefit - that is being [rightly or wrongly] abused by some of its reciepients. The gov' do want to get as many people off that and onto JSA [job seekers allowance].

Well lets agree to disagree here you are far more entrenched into it than I am.

How do you know no attempts have been made ? - i don't believe that.
Who defeats those attempts ?.
No - Canada maybe not the hotbed of terror - but remember what country you border.
I've never heard a good arguement to not have ''national security''.

How old are you - where did you get all your cyicism from ?. I thought all Canadians were happy jolly fellows [sarcasm].

I did not mean to be patronising - sorry.
Just that removing your prob' validated cynicism - there is good people in every goverment. There are programmes in place too help - they just are not effective enough. Not all provinces in Canada are as bad as each other - Somebody somewhere is doing something RIGHT. It just needs more joined up goverment.

If you don't support ''capitalism'' how are you going to pay for all your social programmes ?. Half your tax revenue would disipate in months.

The more people who enter a country the more ''burden'' is placed on the authority - that leads onto issues within housing daycare wealthfare schools transport jobs - pretty much everything. I did not want to come across as a tad ''right wing'' but the reality imho is that everything has to be taken into consideration.

''A new method of counting migrants massively underestimates the real number of people moving to Britain and leads to council underfunding, the Treasury was warned today.

He said: "Estimates have failed to keep pace with what is happening on the ground and public services are suffering as a consequence.

"The migrants that come to Slough are hard-working and bring great benefit to the local economy but the council remains severely underfunded because of these poor statistics.

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http://society.guardian.co.uk/asylumseekers/story/0,,2079366,00.html

If every person had 7 kids because of their ''human right'' to have them - and 1/3 ended up not being able to support them - your tax burden would increase - thus pissing every tax payer off. There is a lot of money swishing around that might be true. Money you consider ''wasted'' i presume ?. When ''burdens'' [ok strains on the system] become out of sink then something suffers - don't you think ?.

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That is true - i don't dispute that. Does or should this lead to crime ? NO imho.

The problem I have with that is that the person with the gun is always right [even if it is metaphorical]. The debate is shut down.
Not to say that sometimes violence is not a option - to overthrow the ''system'' - but Canada ? come on - no need for that there - you have made a good case for the goverment being jack asses but there is always two sides to the story.

 

You have either a very good sense of humour or are far too sensitive.
I put it that way because it was a e.g - silly billy.

 

Well it was nice while it lasted - take care.

Gee whiz I was not attempting too -

 

It is not that i'm blind to injustice i'm just not convinced your views and solutions are correct.
I don't view people as a ''burden'' it was just a wrong choice of word.
Yeah I know sometimes my language is ''off key'' I should watch it - I'm not a foul uncaring human being i'm very humane - I should just watch how I say things - I know this.

 

If this is anything like welfare reform in the US, that's all well and good if people can find jobs. But here even the people with college degrees can't keep up with the outsourcing. The only constant source of work are service jobs like motel maids and waiters and dishwashers. We are told we have to remain flexible and willing to retrain, but when a college education costs what it does how do you afford to reeducate every two years?

 

ha ha ha - welcome to happy capitalism - thank fuck Europe is more social and sociable and willing to socialise further - not that I agree with socialism but I totally disagree with the idea that one should have to pay directly for ones education. If you need to re-educate every two years in order to be employable then heres the rub - let the person who benifits most from your employment, IE the employer, pay !

Otherwise just educate yourself - did you klnow or realise trhat anyone can educate themselves to a 1st class degree or 2:1 standard in anything at all from books alone - That is the viewpoint of many professors - it would take 4 to 10 years but it can be done - why not do that ? knowledge sells and its free - educate yourself - I did and now I havent signed unemployed for over 5 years and prior to that I begged borrowed and saved to get me where I wanted to be. I rely on no-one especially not them cretins in government

get yourself off unemployment benifit and stop relying on others! why do you need a job when going into business costs nothing ?

 

No it is not like ''welfare reform'' it is another tier of govermental subsidy.
A lot of people have claimed incapacity benefit because they have not merited JSA.
This is not the case with everybody but a minority.
In some cases it runs within familys - the welfare state has generationaly benefited a whole raft of people.
This in any right thinking persons mind has to be addressed.

 

How about we follow in our successful ancestors footsteps and try due process to take our country back. If that fails, force may be necessary.

Why are we not willing to fight and potentially die to take our great nation back, the way our ancestors did? Did they deserve to pay a steeper price than present-day Americans? If so, kindly explain.

God bless our great PEOPLE, not an oppressive, self-serving regime that acts in its own best interest, NOT in our people's best interests.

We need to stand up for ourselves, if we don't, no one else will. Actions speak louder than words. It is our DUTY, not just our right to do so.

Inaction = Acceptance. Not OK with me. Where are my compatriots that want to protect our great freedoms? Anyone?

I know we American people are MORE grateful for our freedoms and rights than inaction. And those who aren't, Canada is north - get moving!

 

The way anything seems to turn violent lately is via the government trying to stop a group of peaceful protestors. Big groups of people are terrifying and threatening to the government.