Walmart now selling LSD laced meat.

It is not a secret how much profit they make.

You're not an outcast in this regard in the first place but one of many followers that in essence dislike this kind of business but do not follow that dislike but instead follow their wallet and the most easy followed path. They do not make such a big profit out of nothing. It's the art of temptation and how to show a nice deal and you have fallen for it.

 

so having a profitable business makes a person evil and to be hated??

Well I guess you should start hating me now....:devil:

 

Wtf, I was not saying that in any way...

They are bad if they only pay minimum wage while making millions of profit. But hey, they're 'following the law' so who cares.

 

LOL, I haven't fallen for anything, that is once again your assumption.

I knowingly and willingly shop there for certain items with full knowledge that my purchase directly funds Satan and the minions of Hell.
So you got a problem with that?

 

I got a small problem with you defending that corporation.

 

No, there is nothing wrong with having a profitable business. The sin occurs when greed outweighs your judgement and your lust for money begins to do more harm than good to the community and employees.

 

maybe not you, but it's no secret that a lot of HF frequenters associate wealth and successful business with "bad stuff".

 

I think that's more a question of ethics. Is it unethical to want to maximize profit margins by paying minimum wage to employees? The employees are not being exploited.

 

So what? Does that make what we said here any less true or significant?

It is. Very important to question don't you think? Is this the best option? Is this what you want to support? Even when you know it destroys the smaller businesses so you ony get less options? Enforce their market position even more...

 

We say a business is unethical if they make billions annually but only pay minimum wage. Business is about profit essentially. This maximizes profit. Business in good conduct is not exploiting one's employees. And while that does happen, too often, paying minimum wage is not necessarily exploitation.

Business owners who pay their employees wage greater than minimum wage are simply more generous. Not more ethical. They trade smaller profit margins for a happier workforce.

Both business methods have their pros and cons.

 

that is where you have misconstrued my intent.

I'm not defending them, I'm speaking about the blind acceptance of ideas that is so prevalent amongst particular subsets of society, many of which are frequenters of Hip Forums.

Somebodies gotta take the opposing side or it's all just a bunch of hippies slapping each other on the back and decrying how evil "the man" is.

 

Thank You, finally an intelligent ascertainment of the situation.

 

You don't have to tell me it is useful to show an other stance at times. I've been doing that for religion bashers on here for quite some time... except it is not so useful to show the opposite side (except to point out it is just the other side of the coin anyway) as to show the most objective stance. When that is shown in this case I can't see why you would shop at Walmart for other reasons then for the convenience of both your wallet and time... and nothing else.

I'm sorry but what is so intelligent about concluding it is an ethical question? Wasn't that obvious in the first place. Does it make it any less significant because it is ethical or something? He says nothing wrong at all but I don't see the brilliance.

 

It is an important question. With the market for certain things being as saturated as it is, we have the power to choose where we go and what we pay.

I'll admit, unashamed, I shop at Walmart every day. (I know.. Booo Lunar) Why? Because there's one close by and I can buy a 10 lb bag of potatos there for 2.50. Nowhere else. How about that Doobie Brothers greatest hits cd I want? Yeah, it's only 5 at Walmart, but I'll pay the 12 at the smaller business.

I do shop at Walmart. It means higher profit margins for me. That's great to look out for everyone else and small business, etc. But the bottom line is I want more money. And I want to save money. Just like Walmart. Just like Mom & Pop ltd.

 

Well, your honesty is praiseworthy

 

It was in response to the last two remarks.

 

no one is forcing people to work for walmart

it's their choice if they want minimum wage and minimum benefits

 

Indeed, if that was the only reason to boycott them they would be not so bad at all. Ah well, if there are no other jobs left in the area except corporate businesses that only pay miminum wages it might be some form of forcing.

 

I see, his admitting to shopping at Walmart for the lower prices is praiseworthy, yet my saying I do the same thing to feed my family is worthy of derision and scorn?

:smilielol5:

 

So Gas, you would answer this question with no, it's not unethical?
I would say it at least depends on the mimimum wage (but also the profits, the economy and the country it's in) for instance.

No... It almost seems you want to be called an outcast by me.