Was Ted Kennedy a murderer?

research into the possibilities of using breath to test for alcohol in a person's body dates as far back as 1874...

interesting.. I didnt know that...

Maybe some people think their above the law when they are drunk.. I know this asshole here believes so..
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_632233.html

had this been your average citizen running over a cop, the fucker would never make bond..

this is that secret society that protects itself..

 

This is a widespread opinion, but it doesn't explain how could she get stuck and die there in the first place if events took place as described.

 

I also sited the fact that she alerted no one to the fact that she left the party in Chappaquiddick the evening of the accident, going so far as to leave the keys to her motel room behind as well as her purse, which seems extremely odd to me.

What I also find interesting is that Ted Kennedy decided to leave with only Mary Jo Kopechne instead of alerting one of the chauffeurs to drive them, this would seem to me odd because why take the risk of getting a DUI on your record, particularly when running for such high Government positions.

One explanation could be they left mutually together to go fuck somewhere, knowing the reputation of the Kennedy's I have nothing against that, however seeing as the night ended as it did It begs the question of what occurred between the ride from Chappaquiddick to Dike Bridge that night,

Perhaps the old Kennedy charm didn't work on this lass and a fight or even an attempted rape ensued while in a state of inebriation, there were reports of a car fitting the description of Kennedy's with a male and female occupant parked briefly near a cemetery, shortly before the time of the accident.


Weird story indeed,

 

It is inconsistent and highly improbable as publicly told.

One can surely write a suspense thriller based on what little is known.
The true course of events may have never been known by other than those directly involved and may remain so in future.

 

We’ll probably never fully know what happened that fateful night 40 years ago, but he certainly seemed
composed during his hurried news conference in Edgartown, Martha’s Vineyard Isl., MA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M92JkUlzVM



Hotwater

 

The story he reads sounds as if fabricated by his lawyers.

Again, if this was a high-current river, with car laying many ft deep under the surface of the water,then there would be little reason to doubt his version or question how could she die there.

However, if we assume he fled the scene of accident in panic, leaving the girl behind, question remains: what kind of alive and concsious person would not be able to safely escape from the vehicle that had it's rear wheel sticking out of the water as described (that's how shallow the pond was)?
Why stay there and breath the air bubble until suffocating to death when the simplest and most instinctively certain thing would be to reach for escape from the car (through same window or door as Ted did) and from there just literally walk out of the pond?
Why not?

And where was he diving when he could just stand there, right by the side of the car , kick and break the back window of it if necessary and just bend over to pull her out?
Or how difficult it would be to get into the car through where he himself got out from and pull her out the other way ? Wouldn't even take too much effort and less than a minute under the water, provided she was alive, conscious and already on her way out.


Something has happened there 40 yrs ago and we sure don't know much about it.

 

Interestingly enough this was the first picture I ever took at the age of 5 while being hoisted in the air by my father, who wanted me to catch a glimpse of kennedy on the day he announced his candidacy for president in Boston




Hotwater

 

I wouldn't portray Ted Kennedy as a "murderer". That title involves more thoughtful intent that he was capable of.

I would have called him a typical party animal, capable of cowardice, due to his rather privileged upbringing.

But people change. I believe, in large part, the rest of his life was an attempt to prove to the world that he was also capable of more than that.

 

Still not clear how come she never got out of that car.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32RAmjjmr9M

 

Interesting points made in Ted Kennedy's televised statement,

Alright fine, he claims he got his brain scrambled and was not in clear thought, understandable.

These guys couldn't come to the reasoning that there buddy Ted took a knock on the head and was in an unstable frame of thought?

They couldn't alert the authorities themselves?

And now all of a sudden Ted is able to command his suspiciously automatonic friends to drive him back to the accident to go diving for a victim, all this while still being in a state of thought that was supposedly so side ways as to still disregard calling an ambulance.

What stopped Joe Gargan and Paul Markham from notifying authorities, why would they take orders from someone with an admitted head injury?

 

Let's for the argument's sake assume that Ted was a coward and an egregious imbecile with a bunch of likeminded accomplices who let that girl die out of their reckless negligence and later got away with it because of connections in high places.

It still does not add up with the facts of the incident.

It is claimed that the rear wheel of the car was sticking out of the pond when witnessess saw it (that's how shallow the pond was).
It is supposedly established that the girl was alive and breathing for a long while after the accident.
It is beyond any doubt that there was a way to exit the car, either through broken window or the door (or else how did Kennedy get away in the first place?)

The most logical and instinctively sure thing was for the girl to reach for the way out of the car, instead of climbing back, breathing the air bubble 'til death through suffocation (assuming she was alive , conscious and breathing for a long while after the accident, as reports claim).
Once out of the car she would also discover how shallow the pond was and could literally walk out of it or just climb on what has become a top of the car and wait there for help.

Why didn't she do it?

 

Perhaps she was knocked unconscious from the initial impact of the accident, allowing her to remain alive for a brief time using the air pocket, but at the same time explaining her inability to leave the wreckage.

Perhaps she was not knocked unconscious after the accident, but before it by a blow to the head(I believe I remember the wiki article mentioning blood on her dress) , and left in a car that was driven possibly purposely into the water.

Who knows, there's probably thousands of reasons why the event happened the way it did.

The most important question in opinion is why would Teds friends not notify an ambulance, if Teds excuse was he was suffering head trauma, what was there's?

 

When people suffocate in such a way, gradually, not immediately, they often do so by gradually losing consciousness, rather than through a more obvious process which they could see coming. Could be she was expecting help, and was not willing to make an attempt to swim for it due to a belief that help was on the way. Her head injury could also have played a part in her unwillingness to try to get out of the car. Just a possibility.

 

The report claims that she was not knocked unconscious but even (according to what diver said) apperared to have desperately stuck her head where the air bubble was assumed to be.
So , the report itself now sounds somewhat incredible.

Who knows?

Exactly.

This question yields in importance to those above.

If she was already dead, then first you would need to know how she died before you could pass out definite judgement on actions of Kennedy and his buddies.

If she wasn't dead or unconscious then why didn't she attempt to get out?

 

That's like saying that someone stood by the door, nay!, run away from the door and through the fire to hide inside the bathroom of the burning house and stayed there 'til death solely because they were expecting others to come and get them out

 

No it's not. Flames and water are different substances, eliciting differing reactions. As long as there was an air pocket, she may have felt that the decision to remain and wait was the right one. Or the trauma to the head may have influenced her decision as well.

 

Flame and Water may well be different substances , but Death is Death, no matter by what means.

Read what you have written. It just doesn't make sense that someone would deliberately get themselves stuck inside the car and suffocate to death when there clearly was a way out of it.

One could still have drowned afterwards, if the water was deep and she wasn't a swimmer. But that would be another story and it would require much deeper waters than a pond where the rear wheel of a drowned vehicle was sticking out.

As to trauma to the head, it is stil inconsistent with the whole story.
Somehow she was not traumatised enough to climb all the way to and desperately breath from the air bubble, yet was too traumatised to even try to get out of the car?

You have a contradiction there.

 

What has Jesus got to do with Ted Kennedy exactly? Thats a cheap shot, and not even a very useful one either.

On topic, there probably was a cover-up and the public were more than likely kept in the dark. The Kennedy's have a lot of things to hide and this is one of them. That one family has so many skeletons in it's closet it's surprising how they have such a top class reputation. Rosemary Kennedy's secret lobotomy authorised by her father leaving her completely incapacitated. Joseph P Kennedy II permanently paralysed his girlfriend due to reckless driving. William Kennedy Smith involved in both a rape case and a sexual assault case (and aquitted of both). Probably more things like this too. Strange how the tag "Kennedy" can let you get away with so much.

 

Well we can also take the theory at the bottom of the article:

 

Ask orison319. I believe he meant both stories are equally unbelievable.