Weed makes you think about God?

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  1. SirTokesAlot

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    /\ Exactly.
     
  2. phenix23

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    So if i understand you correctly you don't believe in any god that is described in any religion? If that is the case, then what does your version of god do? create the universe, interfere in man life, cause lightning? I'm not sure i follow your train of thought about god. Any by that token why can't god be a purple unicorn?

    where exactly did you idea of a higher power come from. Just because many religions says there is a god (not all of them do btw), does that make it more correct? was it a good idea back in the 40's and 50's when half the population smoked ciggs? If everyone you knew jumped of a cliff would you?
     
  3. SirTokesAlot

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    My belief in my god is solely my own. Personally I believe more towards the Christian way of living therefor I call myself one. You keep pushing the idea that it's all a conformed uniform state and that's why you wont give in to the thought of it. All of these examples that have NOTHING to do with the topic just leaves me to believe (cigarettes, cliffs, unicorns, jedis, ufo's, etc etc) your trying to discredit something you have no credit for yourself.

    I respect your views, and opinions, but if that's all the reason you have to work with right now this doesn't need to go further.
     
  4. SnipedDragon

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    I have no Religion ... do I think about god? Nope.

    Do I have the energy to start a discussion? Nope. It's pointless anyhow, I'm pretty simple and I'm a person that goes for straight facts.

    There is no god .... is a fact for me. I do not believe in man made little children stories, that only managed to reach this year because it is passed on by generation. In my eyes, religions are the cause of alot of wars ... hate and discrimination.

    All I can add.

    Weed makes me think about life .... it makes me wonder how the fuck this could happen. It makes me feel like shit because there is so less I know about the universe, and I know I will never know alot of things. Life is full of mysteries ... I'm happy that I am part of something this special ... I am happy that I'm a human ... that I live and that I may encounter something this amazing.
     
  5. phenix23

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    I don't care what you believe and your belief system doesn't effect me in any way. but like most people who say that they believe in a higher power but not so much religion, there ideas of a higher power come from a religious view, thus in some form they believe in the religion as well.
    My arguments are very sound but you don't accept them which is fine by me.
    When I was a religious person i used to think like you; god cannot be disproved, we must have come from somewhere, there are so many believers they can't be wrong etc. all i was doing was rationalizing my religious beliefs, trying to make fact out of fiction.
    Also don't attack my credibilty, because it come from a lot of deep thought, readings and personal struggle with faith and god. I don't push the idea of uniform sate of affairs that is the idea that religion and god push.
     
  6. SirTokesAlot

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    Religion is defined as a belief in a supernatural state. Not the belief in all the stories and myths that try and control it. Your arguments are no where near sound.. as the only thing you have to offer is the old "if everyone believes it must be right" example. When you can tell me how your science credits the creation of the whole spectrum of reality, then I will take it all back, but I've seen nothing from you.
     
  7. phenix23

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    Clearly you haven't been reading what i have wrote.
    i used the "if everyone believes it it must be right" example to show you that just because 90% of the people believe in god doesn't make them right. and i used many other arguments, yet i have seen nothing of any substance from you.

    Why is it that people who don't believe in god always have to defend themselves from the people that do believe in god? I haven't seen a single good argument from you so far.
     
  8. SirTokesAlot

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    Their constantly defending because they run out of evidence when they reach the end of the discussion. Because yet again, I will say.. When science can credit the whole spectrum of reality.. I'll give it to our 'human fact'

    But just as I mentioned before, yet again you haven't provided any more evidence since my last post.
    So we're in the same spot as before.
     
  9. SirTokesAlot

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    And I have read each of your responses more than once, and responded as such
     
  10. floodhappy

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    i dont believe in god, life is to crazy to believe in a god, being religous is just the easy way out, to explaining life
     
  11. phenix23

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    Anyway i thought you were an open minded individual when it came to faith but i guess you are just like every other religious nut out there. You can have the last word, since i can't possibly continue to argue with someone as closed minded as yourself. Look at your progression of posts, first you say god cannot be disproved, then you attack me and you finish off with attacking science. you sir, are a Christian, good luck with that.
     
  12. SirTokesAlot

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    If you think ending the discussion with nothing else to help your cause is Me attacking you, fine by me. I never called you any names, I provided a question to which you can't answer.

    Your the one calling me the nut and such because your left with nothing else to say. Wouldn't that be attacking?
     
  13. SirTokesAlot

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    So what would be the harder way out? Trying to gather evidence to explain something you cannot? Riiight.
     
  14. floodhappy

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    Please tell me how you are going to PROVE that god is real and Evolution is not
     
  15. The manticore

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    i guess i beleive in the tao whch could be god or love could be god its not a man in the skyes
     
  16. floodhappy

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    also its says god created earth in three days and that was a couple thousand years ago, but the layers of rock shows the earth is millions of years old
     
  17. SirTokesAlot

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    No one who believes in god is aiming to prove it, that is why it is called 'Faith'

    By 'it' you are probably talking about the Bible. Which is nothing more than a book of myths and legends passed down. Who's to say that 3 days back then wasn't actually millions of years? No one knows, and that's the point.
     
  18. floodhappy

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    well tokes alot do you believe in a higher power which could be a god or christianity because it's in the bible when it happened and it wasnt millions of years ago otherwise we would have been around for millions of year beacuse we were created in supoosibly created in right after those 3 days
     
  19. floodhappy

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    Then there is no reason to try to prove that god is real
     
  20. SirTokesAlot

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    First off christianity is just another version of how to explain god - not a god itself (pretty obvious).

    And when you say we were created right after that, that is when evolution and religion can coexist. It never said anywhere how long it took to create man, or how.

    btw it was 7 days and 7 nights he created the earth (in the bible), I take it you've never bothered to read it.

    Hmm there seems to be a relation to that and how many days there are in a week, which leads me to believe it's just symbolic.
     

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