weigh in on political issues

i knew, the second i read "abortion" in the op, that this topic would degrade into a "discussion" on the ethics of pregnancy termination. its like some sort of scientific law of internet forums.

this is about what i would have said, had i felt up to shortening my opinion into a sentence. small scale communism = ideal, but shit would have to get fucked up for it to actually happen.
theres no reason why small groups of people cant practice it anyway though.

 

i support the death penalty in most cases. sooner than later.

 

im not even gonna comment on the issue and i hope it dies down. but i love how people who have probably never been in such a situation have such strong opinions on it.

and also DONBK your idea of banning alcohol is dumb...but what would one expect from such a critical thinker? we tried banning alcohol before...it created gangsters and caused more problems than it solved. have you ever tasted alcohol before? :cheers2:

 

Ahoy … Bro, unfortunately I have polluted myself with alcohol in the past, it’s not something I’m very proud of at all.

In terms of banning alcohol being a ‘dumb idea’, well I would have thought that a society of leaders and followers being under the influence of alcohol is self-destructive.

At the same time it’s not irie to call any idea dumb. The ability to construct ideas is a blessing, so we should celebrate each one. I may not agree with some of your ideas, but I certainly wouldn’t call them ‘dumb’, they indicate that you are thinking … check some of the awesome topics for discussion that you have raised on this forum. An idea is also a reflection of where a person is at on their personal path … and no two people can walk on the same path.

One Love

 

I'm kinda fond of Rudolph Rocker's book 'Anarcho-Syndicalism' as a sensible means of political organization that strikes a lovely balance between autonomy and the collectivity :cheers2:

 

Banning alcohol would catastrophic. All the pubs are closing anyway thanks to the smoking ban and goddamn it I like my lazy afternoon pub lunches!

 

socialized medicine? I just want free medicine. Why should I have to pay for medicine.
abortion? Improve quality of living or shut up. I have no time for irresponsible people's crap.
gun control? Keep guns out of hands of crazed lunatics. Don't try to predict crazed lunatics.
marijuana prohibition? Fuck that.
drug prohibition in general? No.
capitalism in general? Whatever system complies with the truth. Truth is ever-evolving.
social welfare? Seems like it's doing alright. Optional poor people's tax.
the education system? We should have education.
legal drinking age? Lower it to 7.
the electoral college? Disband it and hang all of the members.

 

lol@ the electoral response

 

sorry i wasnt actin irie enough for ya

also, im sorry you couldn't gain control of your drinking and you had an unfortunate experience as such.

 

as long as humans have existed, they have probably partaken of alcohol and other natural highs. alcohol is an integral part of our society and has been since before memory. thats good enough for me.
btw, ancient peoples practiced abortions too.
not that that makes it spiritually acceptable for some people, but again i think thats something that could be considered hardwired into our society as well. abortions and alcohol wont just go away, EVER.

 

I've said my piece but people are still asking questions even though I feel I've already answered them I will say this and then leave it. I don't think abortion is right in any situation, I was raped when I was 17 on holiday and although I didn't fall pregnant if I had I would have had the baby. Someone said that when the baby comes you'd always look at it and think of being raped/molested by a family member. A baby is not a rape, I don't look at my baby and see my husband or myself, he is his own person and many women have had babies from rape or other circumstances and either adopted them or accepted and loved them.

 

Ahoy ... LOL, is this turning into a feud? I'd rather it didn't ... I just think alcohol is a major problem in human society, people are drunk and making decisions on a regular basis.

 

Ahoy ... not to beat this to death, but there are many things that humans have been doing for a long time that are not good in any way … murder, theft, rape, war, exploitation, pillaging etc.

 

yeah this.

some people are capable of moderation you know. Alcohol isn't synonymous with evil, alcoholism is.

I grew up around alcoholics and I'm sorry you were one. It's terrible seeing someone self-destruct. But alcohol can be use constructively as well, as a means of unwinding and allowing creative thought to flow freely.

 

I don't think abortions are good or right, but women are going to have abortions no matter what, better that there be clean, state-inspected facilities that allow for safe abortions rather than dark alley coathanger crap. Personally I don't believe they are right but I also think women's health should be protected.

 

Ahoy ... Huh? How did you come to this conclusion?

 

Yes what you say is true...but Im saying freedom of choice not pro abortion. Personally I could never get an abortion because of some of the above mentioned reasons...
However, it seems so fucked up to me and hypocritical that people would wanna outlaw abortions while viagra sells are at an all time high. Our society says..."Hey men...screw screw screw. Dont worry about any repercussions it may have...hell...if you have a limp pickle pay no mind to Darwins natural selection theory...no...thats crazy talk....instead pop this magic pill that'll give you an 8 hour erection...and bang the heck out of any passing vagina...yes...its patriotic." On the flip side...our society is saying to women..."Hey ladies...nevermind the fact that every guy you come across in any bar, subway car, park, grocery store, or hell anywhere for that matter just wants to screw you...if you make the mistake of sleeping with some low life looser whos pumped up on viagra and you get preggers then tough shit. You will carry a person inside of your body for nine months and then...regardless of the bio dads choice to stay and help out or bail ship...you will have to make the gut wrenching decision of giving up your child to the adoption agency [where life isnt necessarily a sudden bowl of cherries for the baby] or sacrifice the rest of your life to a child you had not planned for." Bwah...that felt like a long rant while typing.
Basically...i just dont think its fair that women are being held 100 percent accountable for getting pregnant but are given zero choices. If abortion becomes illegal then child social service agencies better be adequately funded and staffed to track down millions of deadbeat dads and hold them accountable as well!

 

mandy, your ability to get from viagra to misogyny in the same sentence is why I have never taken feminism seriously.

 

lol pypes...go pet a bunny.

 

check out the feminism forum. it's a real LOLfest