Welcome to 21st Century United Kingdom.The crumbling society

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by J0hn, Sep 18, 2007.

  1. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    If Britain is to become the radiant Country that it used to be. We need to change the law and allow children who commit crime, to be accountable for their actions. This results in children learning and knowing the true meaning of responsibility. Responsibility from a young age should be inforced by the government.

    So from the age of 9, children will be accountable for any criminal offence they commit. Secure units, detention centres would then lower the age of commital, to the age of 9 to 17 years.
    Parents should also be punished if their child commits a crime. But this punishment should be in the form of parental help and support. So parents get the support they need and help in all their applications and enquiries. But if parents deny this. Then the child should be taken into care or placed with foster parents. The parents should then be put in prison for a minimum of two years.


    In my area, there is an increasing number of young girls from ages 10 to 13 who are getting into what is essentially being a "hoe". This has become very popular and children are trying activities that defy the status quo. It is parents responsibility to talk to their kids about this sort of thing. In Lewisham, there is one school called......It sits on top of Hilly Fields. The girls there are a series of gangs. They call themselves, the ........hoes.
    Is this a society we really want to live in? I say many without the specs of starry eyes, will finally get a burning desire to rehabilitate the UK. If we cannot do this, the UK is going to descend into anarchy, which will lead to civil war, which will lead to economical meltdown and possible expulsion from the European Union. I surely hope that Gordon Brown acknowledges the need for Britain to cleanse itself of immoral ways. So we can prove to the critical nations that we can stand on our own two feet and sustain a society of morals. I am only 25, but am already shocked and appauled at what I see. I am sure that I am not entirely alone in that I want Britain to tackle this.

    This should be treated as an epidemic of Britain. IN which we should take it seriously. First of all, my proposals for the attitude of law on young kids, is the only way we can reduce youth crime. Thus making Britain moral. This is just one aspect.We still have grown adults who also commit the same crimes as young people.
     
  2. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    when was britain radiant? :stunned:
     
  3. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Before all the teenage kids became gangstas and hoes. Don't you pay attention?:rolleyes:
     
  4. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    *snicker* but weren't they always?
     
  5. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    :lol: :leaving:
     
  6. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    For about as long as there have been humans:D

    Perhaps he's thinking of before that ... about 200,000BCE?:confused:
     
  7. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    :hang:
     
  8. phoenix_indigo

    phoenix_indigo dreadfully real

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    j0hn they might call themselves 'hos' but if they aren't getting money for sex then they aren't REAL hos
     
  9. bokonon

    bokonon Senior Member

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    If the youth of Brighton just kept on bumming about the beach, partying, having a good time and listening to music, then that future of Britain wouldn't be looking too great either. Also...Who knows what the future holds? :uhoh2: Maybe those kids who've spent all their youth getting into fights, boozing it up, blaring drum and bass out of their mobile phones will be exactly what we need :)
     
  10. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Of course they will:D

    The world would be boring as fuck if there was none of that stuff, just as there always has and always will be. Mostly it's just youthful high spirits and harmless mischief, surely we can all recognise something of our younger selves in the youngsters of today? They aren't that different, you know ... the music and styles might be slightly tweaked but they're just what you and me and our peer group were like in almost every way. If you can't recognise yourself in them then you've *really* lost touch with reality:)
     
  11. phoenix_indigo

    phoenix_indigo dreadfully real

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    i agree with you there, Lith.

    i remember being 16 or so and walking around town feeling like my mates and I owned the place. it was a total sense of pride at being who we were and feeling like no one could tell us what to do as we'd finally gained some independence and could get out to places that our parents wouldn't be hassling us.

    ah, to be that young again. :)
     
  12. J0hn

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    What we need, is a new government. Instead of molly cuddling young criminals. We should make them learn that negative behaviour isn't acceptable in society.I believe children should have fear of parents. I mean smacking induces fear into kids. But my saying is:

    A child who doesn't fear his father will not fear authority. Therefore will defy the law.
     
  13. phoenix_indigo

    phoenix_indigo dreadfully real

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    so instead of punk-assed kids walking about you'd rather the country be filled with bully fathers that abuse their kids?

    yeah ... that will help.
     
  14. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Authority doesnt need to be feared:rolleyes: You sound like those people posting leaflets through the door talking about how theyre respectable and "God-fearing"...How the hell is fear a good thing?

    No, respect and fear are different, and often opposing. Chilren who fear are unhappy children. Unhappy children go on to cause problems

    Security is the best grounding for love and respect with kids. And they wont have that if theyre being beaten up now, will they?
     
  15. IlUvMuSIc

    IlUvMuSIc Senior Member

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    hmmmmm... Im not anything like that. Unfortunately i think that J0hn has a good point but no smacking. I think that some people (NOT JUST YOUNG PEOPLE) need to be punished when they do wrong and theyre just getting away with loads. This is worse because of what happens to ME! I DONT do anything and i get thrown out of loads of places etc and its NOT FAIR!! People just assume because im young, with my friends that im up to 'no good' it sucks. alot.

    ITS THEIR FAULT AND THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY!!
     
  16. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Totally


    I will never say that smacking children is ok. Unless in very rare cases...say a childs run into the road and needs to be jerked backwards suddenly...but still, it wouldnt be a smack, a punch, a belt, or whatever it is John wishes to happen to the poor blighters

    Its abuse. Like hitting an animal. A child cant fight back the way an adult can, theyre not as strong or knowledgeable, and when its like that its abuse plain and simple. Black and white issue for a change. A child is also human, and i dont like violence full stop

    Not to mention the basic fact that two wrongs will NEVER make a right, and that we, as adults, are childrens TEACHERS. Good teachers lead by example. Especially with kids, who immitate by nature

    So harming kids would breed a hateful, messed up generation, which is the opposite of what we want to achieve

    I agree people need to be more responsible, more caring about othr, take responsibility for their actions, be more thoughtful etc blah. But it aint just kids. Take another look around
     
  17. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    And to add to what the others said, i also felt i owned the place as an adolescent. I had that special brand of self-assurance, i had quite a few friends, i had a strong sense of identity. Isnt that just what its all about?
     
  18. IlUvMuSIc

    IlUvMuSIc Senior Member

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    yea... I still think they should get punished though.
     
  19. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    well, now, i was spanked as a child whenever i tried to kill myself with some stupid act or another. i'm neither hateful nor messed up. in fact, i don't like the idea of spanking, even though looking back it really wasn't bad.
     
  20. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    I guess thats kind of like what i said about jerking a kid back from running into the road...like a warning, to save the person...I duno that ones kind of borderline. But if they knew you and sensed thats what you needed to help change your life...
    What i dont like is physical punishment for the sake of punishment. As in teachers using canes, and parents hitting kids for doing stupid shit like not cleaning their room or using a swear word, or even hitting just out of pure anger. I have a feeling if John got his way thats what itd descend into. Well, actually, this happens all the time still, which is pretty sad
     

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